Moody's credit downgrade likely

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Cape Town – South Africa will in all likelihood receive a credit downgrade from rating agency Moody’s, the agency said in a credit opinion note.

“We would likely downgrade South Africa’s rating in the absence of growth recovery and more fundamental structural reforms that put the economy on a high and sustainable growth path.”

Moody’s wants to see reform in among others the governance of state-owned enterprises, labour market flexibility and better market competition in network sectors.

Despite the 3.3% gross domestic product growth recorded in the second quarter of 2016, Moody’s is of the view that South Africa’s GDP growth will “nearly stagnate” at 0.2% for the whole of 2016, before recovering to 1.1% in 2017 and 2% in 2018.

On Wednesday Moody’s placed Eskom, the South African National Roads Agency, the Industrial Development Corporation, the Development Bank of Southern Africa and the Land Bank on review for a downgrade citing concerns about funding sources, governance and the unstable political environment.


Economists have singled out the reform of state-owned enterprises as key to avoiding a credit rating downgrade, because economic expansion is constrained without the infrastructure these entities provide.

But the recent public spat between National Treasury and state-owned entities Eskom, Denel and South African Airways, as well as allegations of corruption at entities such as the Passenger Rail Agency South Africa, have dented confidence among investors and credit ratings agencies.

According to Moody’s, South Africa’s resource-rich and resilient economy is countered by “growth that has been too slow for too long”.

Prospects for a gradual recovery and medium-term growth are reliant among other things on “improved incentives for small and medium enterprises”, Moody’s said.

Earlier this year, South Africa staved off a credit rating downgrade from Moody’s, Standard & Poor’s and Fitch, although all three agencies said sluggish growth and economic uncertainty were worrying factors.

In May, Moody’s affirmed South Africa’s credit rating at Baa2 – two notches above junk, while keeping the outlook negative.

Both Fitch and S&P left the credit rating at BBB- in June, one level above junk.

Fin24
http://www.fin24.com/Economy/moodys-credit-downgrade-likely-20160916
 
So we'll sadly still be above "junk status" in their minds then even after a downgrade?

We're heading into the abyss unless there are some drastic changes, someone, please, pretty please, rate us as junk to wake up the masses and the corrupt!
 
So we'll sadly still be above "junk status" in their minds then even after a downgrade?

We're heading into the abyss unless there are some drastic changes, someone, please, pretty please, rate us as junk to wake up the masses and the corrupt!

Their problem lies with the two most important agencies who have way more influence than Moody's. One downgrade there and the economy is f***ed. Besides, chances are good that Moody's will follow suit and downgrade the country 2 notches to junk. This is needed. We need reform. We need a regime change. Things will not get better if these organizations do not intervene.
 
Their problem lies with the two most important agencies who have way more influence than Moody's. One downgrade there and the economy is f***ed. Besides, chances are good that Moody's will follow suit and downgrade the country 2 notches to junk.

Seems Fitch and S&P are too "nice" or perhaps too bribed by #1 to go to junk though, and Moody's is first up in the timeline now right?

They won't go down 2 notches and be the first agency to rate ZA as junk, they'll join the others in "just above junk" territory and wait-and-see. Just wish any one of them would grow a pair and take the plunge. The rest will likely follow as you say.
 
How do you think there will be a regime change if we dip into junk status Q4 2016? The next national elections are only in 2019. What other power does anyone have to fix the economy?? Its up to Jacob and his cadre and we can't do anything about it
 
How do you think there will be a regime change if we dip into junk status Q4 2016? The next national elections are only in 2019. What other power does anyone have to fix the economy?? Its up to Jacob and his cadre and we can't do anything about it

Even the mighty Zuma had to back down with Nene-gate, that's the point, it seems we need a crises of multiple times that magnitude to spur those with power into action.

I'm not talking about elections at all, 2019 will see the ANC stay in power, if somewhat diluted, and the next cadre will take the reigns while paying homage to zumatello or Zuma himself who has proven he doesn't give a flying fek about the constitution will stay on for a third term. This country is NOT going to turn around through elections.

Nene-gate showed some promise that there are still people with enough power to reign in this madman, but for some reason they are very cautious to reveal their cards too soon and overplay their hand. Nene-gate forced them off the sidelines temporarily; we need a crises big enough for those people to go all in and realize it is now or never to get rid of zuma immediately.
 
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