Motorbike for beginners?

Give some thought to the BMW F800ST. Little bit on the expensive side, but it's nice and light with decent power, and it has the safety features of a BMW. Plus it looks beautiful :)

The looks are debatable but a second-hand 800ST isn't a horrible choice. They lose value quite quickly so bargains can be had.

As for the naked look, if you're not looking for power, get the ER-6N. If you want some "go", get the Z750. Another beautiful bike is the Honda CB600 Hornet, which has now been replaced by the CBF600S. Find a decent nic CB600 second-hand though. http://www.honda.co.za/main.aspx?id=72&pid=191
 
Suzuki GSX650F: (R 74,500)
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Kawsaki ER-6F: (R 65,995)
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I agree with the 600cc sentiment; but its overkill if you're not an experienced rider, although under you'll likely outgrow.
 
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Aprilia SL 750 Shiver priced @ approx. R 70, 000.00 (last time i checked).

I love this bike!
 
Also here's some good advice if you're new to biking and thinking what range to get into:

Entry Level?
Marketing writers and moto mag writers alike often throw around the term “entry level” when describing middleweight motorcycles with low seat heights and comfortable riding positions.

But if so, it’s at least partly because they represent a mid-way point in a world of motorcycles in which the upper limits are absolutely astonishing by standards of not so long ago.


While manufacturers have spent engineering overtime honing extremely light, powerful, yet tractable and inviting machines for the past few decades, last time we checked, human DNA is still the same as it ever was.

In 1980 a bike that could turn a mid-to-low 12-second quarter-mile would have deserved acceptance in a league of high-performance machines of 900cc to 1100cc displacement.

Today, anyone with a credit score can buy 600-650 cc bikes that are considered not-too-expensive, yet able to develop speed deceptively fast.

Anyone who has never ridden a street motorcycle, and wants a 600cc sportbike for his or her first ought to be sure this is the right level bike to start on, because there are less powerful machines that work great as well.

Although our liberty includes the right to take unnecessary risk, and even though the bikes of today have better chassis, suspension and brakes to manage the power, a word to the wise might still be in order.


We consider the GSX650F, Ninja 650R and FZ6R – any of which can beat a Corvette to 100 mph – to be entry level sportbikes, and not necessarily ideal for first-time riders.

Mistakes in judgment on a motorcycle are expensive and painful, so why add exceptional speed to the mix?

On the other hand, I was interviewing a Pentagon official last year, and he said they put young people in the cockpit of aircraft, and the good ones soon see time in a fighter. His point was well taken, but it’s also true they train the heck out of these pilots, and only the ones who don’t wash out make the cut.

You and I have nothing stopping us from getting in over our heads but our own good judgment.

We highly recommend first-timers honestly self-evaluate their readiness for the challenges of handling a powerful motorcycle.

It is widely believed that prior proficiency on a dirtbike (or, at least a bicycle) can be of some value. Anecdotal evidence also suggests that if you are athletic, or have good balance, great eyesight or spatial awareness, high level of manual dexterity, eye-hand-coordination, and such, these too are believed to help you in learning to ride.

Seeking qualified training is also a good idea.

And overall, if you think you will be okay, who would we be to say these bikes – or faster ones – aren’t suitable? They may be, and you may be fine.

We’ll leave you with advice we share with our family or friends interested in riding: Don’t walk before you can crawl, and don’t try to sprint until you are a good walker. Use your head, wear the gear, and have fun.

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Go for >= 600cc, no smaller. You will grow out of smaller bikes very quickly. For a beginner, I recogmend the HONDA CBR600 or CBR600RR (ROAD) / Kawasaki KLR650 (ON + OFF-ROAD) or Yamaha XV650Dragstar if you're into cruisers.

Sorry but, aside from the KLR recommendation, I think that's terrible advice for an absolute beginner. A CBR600RR of today puts out more power than 1000cc bikes of 15 years ago. Definitely WAY more power than a beginner can handle. And nothing retards riding progress faster than a bike that intimidates you. Also, there's no way to end up maimed/dead/paralysed for life than getting on a bike that has more power than you're comfortable with. I've seen it happen.

In most countries, you actually have to ride machines of smaller capacity (like, under 200cc, or restricted to 33bhp, or something similar depending on the country) for a year or two before you can even apply for a big bike licence. I think it's like that in the UK, Australia, some European and Asian countries.

As for the whole "you'll get bored of a 600 in 2 weeks even though you've never ridden a bike before" stuff that gets bandied around, sorry but that only applies if the only thing you do on your bike is drag race it on long straights.

I know some guys who race two stroke 250s who absolutely destroy guys on 1000cc machines, simply because they have far better riding skills, developed over many years, with a healthy respect for power and attention to cornering technique, gears and revs, body positioning, etc.

It seems only in SA and the USA that bikers have this notion that you can only get a rush out of a 1000cc machine. Bollocks. When you're regularly wearing down your knee pucks and cranking your bike over in corners to the extent that footpegs are being ground down and the edges of tires are ragged, then you can say that you're "growing out of" your 250/400/600.

Bikes like Japanese 250s & 400s & supermotos have a cult following in the UK and Europe, where the riding mentality is a bit different to here.

Personally I started out on a 125 scooter, and once I'd learned how to ride, I moved onto bigger and better bikes. I'd recommend doing the same

That's solid advice for a n00b. Otherwise, get yourself a sports 600 and prepare to be "bored":rolleyes: but make sure you also get a very decent hospital plan...
 
Good advice ^^

Im 1.86m, so relatively tall and had a VFR400 for 2 years, best bike ever! Bought it second hand for R25k and sold it for R20k or so, what a bargain. I then got a brand new ZX6R and was immediately comfortable on it having had the 2 years on a smaller bike. When u start out, dont buy expensive, trust me on that
 
nothing retards riding progress faster than a bike that intimidates you. Also, there's no way to end up maimed/dead/paralysed for life than getting on a bike that has more power than you're comfortable with. I've seen it happen.

I started off with ZX6R (2003), terrifying, definitely Yes!, but I became very comfortable with it rather quickly, and therefore hadn’t wasted money on a ride that I would have outgrown too quickly. It’s about how you ride. Motorcycling is dangerous, even more today than back in 2003, thus I halve heartedly agree with you.
 
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"Go for >= 600cc, no smaller. You will grow out of smaller bikes very quickly"

I totally agree. I started with a suzuki gsxr 600cc, it was and still is awesome. Start slowly and only go on the highway if you have been driving for months and are very comfortable with your bike. Do the track day at Kayalami racetrack. You can also watch the video "twist of the wrist" which will teach you a lot of driving tips.
 
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