Moving to Mac

[lupedelupe]

I run 3DS Max on an iMac (Parallels, Windows 7). No issues.

 

[bwana]

So question 3 goes,* is the retina display more advisable for me than the upgradability and performance boost that comes with the non retina counterparts once upgraded?

Yes. If you buy a high enough spec rMBP you won't feel the desire to upgrade it… which you can still do to a limited degree. I went back to using a non retina screen while my display was being replaced and the difference between the two models was even more vast than I thought it would be.

Have you considered an iMac? Or is portability a requirement?

 

[AstroTurf]

I tried mac a few times and just could not see the allure.

If you can, try a machine for a few hours before you buy and if you do buy one, Enjoy!

 

[PostmanPot]

I tried mac a few times and just could not see the allure.

If you can, try a machine for a few hours before you buy and if you do buy one, Enjoy!

That's your problem right there. You've tried one for a few minutes/hours and have never owned one. Generally not possible for it to all make sense in such a limited time.

 

[AstroTurf]

That's your problem right there. You've tried one for a few minutes/hours and have never owned one. Generally not possible for it to all make sense in such a limited time.

I have owned 2. A MacBook pro and a mac g5.

I also used an iPad for around a month.

 

[PostmanPot]

I have owned 2. A MacBook pro and a mac g5.

I also used an iPad for around a month.

A MacBook Pro is an easy one, we all know they are the best laptops/ultrabooks.

I'm not a huge fan of iMacs but would guess that they're the best all-in-ones too, factoring in build and screen quality (and peripheral quality) like MacBooks / Pros.

If you don't like OS X then, well, I understand. But I would continue my argument stating that your Macs were both very old and using very outdated versions of OS X by today's standards.

I entered the Mac world after swearing by Windows (and hating Mac) for 95% of my life. When I moved over it was in the days of Mavericks, just 2 years ago. The difference between Mavericks, Yosemite and El Capitan is staggering.

 

[greg0205]

A MacBook Pro is an easy one, we all know they are the best laptops/ultrabooks.

I'm not a huge fan of iMacs but would guess that they're the best all-in-ones too, factoring in build and screen quality (and peripheral quality) like MacBooks / Pros.

If you don't like OS X then, well, I understand. But I would continue my argument stating that your Macs were both very old and using very outdated versions of OS X by today's standards.

I entered the Mac world after swearing by Windows (and hating Mac) for 95% of my life. When I moved over it was in the days of Mavericks, just 2 years ago. The difference between Mavericks, Yosemite and El Capitan is staggering.

Leopard for me thank you very much. There was also a big jump to Lion and another one to Mavericks.

 

[Mars]

That's your problem right there. You've tried one for a few minutes/hours and have never owned one. Generally not possible for it to all make sense in such a limited time.

I bought a new MBP at the beginning of 2013. Honestly, I tried to use it full on for 8 months before I installed windows 7 on it. I went whole hog man, bought the magic mouse, the track pad and the keyboard for my desk. It just doesn't flow for me. For the past two years the only reason I booted into OSX was to do the updates. Even without use OSX (and win 10, since I made the mistake of upgrading) slowd down to a crawl. I suspect an outdated version of parallels (wich was utter crap btw) was the cause, but even after I removed it it was still dead slow.

Ive just cleaned the disk reinstalled El Capitan and its nippy as ever, but I still cant get into the groove. I'm trying to figure out how to install windows onto an external drive right now (without success so far).

If push comes to shove I will take out the optical drive and put another hdd in there, but I dont really like the idea.

So my point is that I really like OSX. I like the way it integrates with my iPad and Iphone. I looks slick. I feel all hipster when I'm using it, but its not good for productivity for me.
Oh and why the fsk is there no delete button on the fsking keyboard?

 

[PostmanPot]

I bought a new MBP at the beginning of 2013. Honestly, I tried to use it full on for 8 months before I installed windows 7 on it. I went whole hog man, bought the magic mouse, the track pad and the keyboard for my desk. It just doesn't flow for me. For the past two years the only reason I booted into OSX was to do the updates. Even without use OSX (and win 10, since I made the mistake of upgrading) slowd down to a crawl. I suspect an outdated version of parallels (wich was utter crap btw) was the cause, but even after I removed it it was still dead slow.

Ive just cleaned the disk reinstalled El Capitan and its nippy as ever, but I still cant get into the groove. I'm trying to figure out how to install windows onto an external drive right now (without success so far).

If push comes to shove I will take out the optical drive and put another hdd in there, but I dont really like the idea.

What productivity issues are you having? There are usually ways to get things like Windows if one prefers.

So my point is that I really like OSX. I like the way it integrates with my iPad and Iphone. I looks slick. I feel all hipster when I'm using it, but its not good for productivity for me.

:erm:

Oh and why the fsk is there no delete button on the fsking keyboard?

FN + backspace.

 

[FiestaST]

 

[greg0205]

What productivity issues are you having? There are usually ways to get things like Windows if one prefers.



:erm:



FN + backspace.

CMD + Backspace

 

[phly]

Good move.

One.
Consider an iMac: larger screen in a much better position, and the trackpad – off to the side – is far less awkward to use for design. You will likely also want a mouse.

Two.
CorelDraw. Really? I have a love-hate relationship with Adobe but their software is, on the whole, when it works, and when you have an internet connection, actually pretty good. Plus it's the industry standard.

Three.
I have never really got comfortable with Premiere Pro; prefer Final Cut Pro X by a country mile. But if you are going to go into the high-end of video production then Premiere Pro, and crucially After Effects is probably the way to go.

Four.
Forget Windows, you won't need it (for anything aside from gaming). Macs have a leaner OS, and in my experience run better with smaller spec numbers. Plus Macs are quiet.

Five.
Lots of free (and good) software with a standard Mac. But you may want to save a few bucks for extras like Little Snitch.

Six.
Down the line bend over and pay for a Thunderbolt-connected G-Tech or Lacie external. Fast, reliable.

I have an iMac at work. I hardly used it as I was so used o windows and my dell laptop that i would go on the iMac just to get the files I need to work on, and do so on my pc. Main reason for this was I'm so used to the shortcuts in Adobe photoshop for example on the windows side that I input same shortcuts on Mac causing different results and abit of a slow down when there is deadlines to be reached and I'm trying to work fast. I'm also more on Adobe Suite but at times i get coreldraw files that I need to edit/update. I havent done much premiere pro but i can find my way around. After Effects I love to bits which is abit of a concern as the HD 4000 isnt supported by Element 3D v2. The rest I'm sure i'll find a way.

PS I spotted a deal for a 2.9Ghz 13inch that i'm really interested in. So may opt for that over the i5 2.5ghz 13inch. As for that prices pic, a friend actually sent me the exact same pic first thing this morning.

 

[bwana]

I have an iMac at work. I hardly used it as I was so used o windows and my dell laptop that i would go on the iMac just to get the files I need to work on, and do so on my pc. Main reason for this was I'm so used to the shortcuts in Adobe photoshop for example on the windows side that I input same shortcuts on Mac causing different results and abit of a slow down when there is deadlines to be reached and I'm trying to work fast. I'm also more on Adobe Suite but at times i get coreldraw files that I need to edit/update. I havent done much premiere pro but i can find my way around. After Effects I love to bits which is abit of a concern as the HD 4000 isnt supported by Element 3D v2. The rest I'm sure i'll find a way.

PS I spotted a deal for a 2.9Ghz 13inch that i'm really interested in. So may opt for that over the i5 2.5ghz 13inch. As for that prices pic, a friend actually sent me the exact same pic first thing this morning.

The keyboard shortcuts for photoshop are almost identical for OsX and Windows https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/default-keyboard-shortcuts.html

 

[AstroTurf]

A MacBook Pro is an easy one, we all know they are the best laptops/ultrabooks.

I'm not a huge fan of iMacs but would guess that they're the best all-in-ones too, factoring in build and screen quality (and peripheral quality) like MacBooks / Pros.

If you don't like OS X then, well, I understand. But I would continue my argument stating that your Macs were both very old and using very outdated versions of OS X by today's standards.

I entered the Mac world after swearing by Windows (and hating Mac) for 95% of my life. When I moved over it was in the days of Mavericks, just 2 years ago. The difference between Mavericks, Yosemite and El Capitan is staggering.

I don't hate mac, just not for me.
The pro was a 2011 thing, had the latest osx on it.

 

[PostmanPot]

I don't hate mac, just not for me.
The pro was a 2011 thing, had the latest osx on it.

So OS X Lion... :erm:

You have my understanding. I would have found it difficult getting into Mac with Lion.

We're now 4 years ahead, and you ought to try again if you have the opportunity.

 

[AstroTurf]

So OS X Lion... :erm:

You have my understanding. I would have found it difficult getting into Mac with Lion.

We're now 4 years ahead, and you ought to try again if you have the opportunity.

It was not lion, updated it to the latest osx.

Not sure why you are being so defensive?

 

[noxibox]

Plus Macs are quiet.

Not particularly. In fact Apple are notorious for attempting to make them quiet by allowing the CPU to get too hot and then kicking the fans in at full tilt. Overriding this stupid behaviour actually makes them on average quieter, but no more so than an equivalent Windows machine.

 

[PostmanPot]

It was not lion, updated it to the latest osx.

Not sure why you are being so defensive?

I'm merely explaining that things have changed drastically, and that if my Mac experience was with as old a version of the OS as yours, I would have a different feeling.

Not particularly. In fact Apple are notorious for attempting to make them quiet by allowing the CPU to get too hot and then kicking the fans in at full tilt. Overriding this stupid behaviour actually makes them on average quieter, but no more so than an equivalent Windows machine.

I disagree completely, unless you are specifically comparing Retina MacBook Pros vs equivalent high-end Windows ultrabooks. My rMBP's fan basically never comes on.

iMacs and non-Retina MacBook Pros are much quieter than their equivalents...

 

[BrrIan]

That GPU has issues. They have a recall, but good luck with that here.
I recently took one affected unit to China to get fixed there (they swap the motherboard aka logic board), as Core were... not interested in fixing despite the recall. Doesn't mean it won't happen again though.

https://www.apple.com/support/macbookpro-videoissues/

Agree - we have 4 Macs which have the same issue. Getting it fixed via Core is a true PITA.

I just took mine in, they kept it for a few days and returned it repaired. No hassles at all.

 

[phoneJunky]

I'm merely explaining that things have changed drastically, and that if my Mac experience was with as old a version of the OS as yours, I would have a different feeling.

I don't think it changed enough to win him over though. The reason I have a Macbook now is because I decided not to do work on my personal stuff any more. It is difficult to change the way you work. The integration with my iOS devices was another plus point for me.

I agree though on the noise, my Macbook Air is the quietest thing I own.