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You obviously never heard of the Nokia 6680?
But then I see you Vodacom folk don't ever do your homework.
The 6680 has 3G and EDGE.
Also....your 3G upload speeds suck.
EDGE performs better for any upload application.
 
dbnnet said:
You obviously never heard of the Nokia 6680?
But then I see you Vodacom folk don't ever do your homework.
The 6680 has 3G and EDGE.
Also....your 3G upload speeds suck.
EDGE performs better for any upload application.
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MTN hyped EDGE so much but did not tell customers that all the new 3G phones wont support it.......I did not say anything about 6680 having EDGE or not.HSDPA will be available before December on all Vodacom 3G sites.MTN will only launch HSDPA June next year.......If Vodacom never do there home work.How come they are SA leading Cellular network.They also have the widest broadband coverage in SA......EDGE does not fall into the broadband category.
 
Tahir Ally said:
If you buy a 3G phone it will not support EDGE.
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The 6680 is a 3G PHONE, it supports EDGE: I rest my case!!!

Tashir Ally said:
How come they are SA leading Cellular
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ONLY in SA , because they are part of the Telkom monopoly that got a head start.
In total, MTN is larger, with more customers, and in more parts of the world.

Tashir Ally said:
EDGE does not fall into the broadband category
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Then 3G must really be cr@p, as it underperforms EDGE in all upload applications.
(Thats' one reason why in the USA, EDGE and not 3G were deployed).
 
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dbnnet said:
The 6680 is a 3G PHONE, it supports EDGE: I rest my case!!!


ONLY in SA , because they are part of the Telkom monopoly that got a head start.
In total, MTN is larger, with more customers, and in more parts of the world.


Then 3G must really be cr@p, as it underperforms EDGE in all upload applications.
(Thats' one reason why in the USA, EDGE and not 3G were deployed).
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Well MTN is bigger outside SA.MTN is only 100 000 more customers.Vodacom has the least churn amongst all 3 networks.Internationaly when a networks buy a certain percentage of another network.Only that percentage can be added to the buyer.What MTN did they bought a small percentage of other networks but added the entire base....If you did not know Vodafone owns 35% of Vodacom.Vodafone is largest mobile operator with 350 million customers.Thats 1 in 3 people on this planet is connected to them..........When it comes to telecom the American are backwards
 
Tahir Ally said:
Well MTN is bigger......
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Wow... that must have really been difficulty for you to say :)

Vodafone owns 35% of Vodacom
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They are only the minority shareholder.
Telkom SA is the majority and controlling shareholder.

When it comes to telecom the American are backwards
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The Americans were using cellular technology way before companies like Vodaphone even existed.
Having heavily invested in this initial analogue technology, and then waited, they have now been able to leap-frog us,
and are now deploying more sophisticated cellular solutions based on the WCDMA and CDMA2000 standards.
These ARE American technologies, and owned mostly by a company called Qualcomm (without which 3G would not exist).
 
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Tahir Ally said:
Vodafone is largest mobile operator with 350 million customers.Thats 1 in 3 people on this planet is connected to them
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:) If this bloke wasn't so irritating I could almost enjoy all the crap he lets loose. He reminds me so much of George Bush who can't open his mouth without putting his foot in it. The last count (granted, it's a guess mostly) I saw (2000) was that this planet had a population of more than 6.1 billion people so if Vodafone has 350 million customers it is about 1 in 20 of the planet's population.

Also, according to http://www.hoovers.com/vodafone/--ID__47982--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml the 350 million seems overstated:

Customers have voted with their phones to make Vodafone Group the world's #2 wireless phone services provider (by subscribers) -- with more than 133 million (trailing only China Mobile (Hong Kong)). Vodafone Group has grown rapidly through acquisitions and has advanced toward its goal of creating a pan-European wireless network. The company, formerly known as Vodafone AirTouch, owns stakes in wireless carriers around the globe. Vodafone companies are leading mobile phone operators in the US (45%-owned Verizon Wireless), Germany (D2), and the UK (Vodafone). The company is uniting its far-flung affiliates under the Vodafone brand.
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TheCynick said:
Don't feed the troll.
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Please don't take away one of the few pleasures I have left :)

lewstherin said:
...gag that Tahir wally before he single handedly proves that Vodacom sales ppl really are as retarded and incompetent as we all thought.
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Hmmmmm... I wonder if MTN will give me free minutes if I keep feeding him? :)
 
Wayee off topic but somewhat interesting relating to some comments i've read here:

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/09/09_801-2.html
"The battle for Iraq is not over oil," said one Defense Department official involved in communications. "It's over bandwidth." And no one was fighting harder for a piece of the spectrum than the consortium led by American cellular giant Qualcomm with such business partners as Lucent Technologies and Samsung of South Korea. They wanted to follow U.S. troops into Iraq with Qualcomm's patented cellular technology, called CDMA, a system no nation in the Middle East had yet been willing to adopt. Even as the bombs fell over Baghdad, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), whose district includes many Qualcomm employees, had tried to wrap his favored company in the flag. He denounced the cellular system used by Iraq's neighbors as "an outdated French standard," and proposed a law that would effectively mandate Qualcomm on Iraq.
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Think of it what you will [whether it is conspiracy theory or not, obviously things are happening in the world relating to this tech ], at least it's clear which nationality Qualcomm is :P .

EDIT:
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/3-28-2003-38202.asp
He has called on the US government to develop Iraq's mobile network using US-developed CDMA technology, rather than GSM, which has been recommended by the US defence department and is the standard system across Europe and the Middle East. The GSM network and has been adopted by 70% of the world's mobile users.

"If European GSM technology is deployed in Iraq, much of the equipment used to build the cell phone system would be manufactured in France, Germany, and elsewhere in western and northern Europe. Furthermore, royalties paid on the technology would flow to French and European sources."

Mr Issa is critical of the GSM technology, claiming that it is inferior to CDMA. He says the US government had chosen the "European" system because it was easier to eavesdrop on users' conversations.
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Politics and Technology do not go well together :(
 
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..He denounced the cellular system used by Iraq's neighbors as "an outdated French standard,"
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...and there I was thinking that the French standard of communication was waving a whole bunch of white flags :)
 
dbnnet said:
...and there I was thinking that the French standard of communication was waving a whole bunch of white flags :)
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Bwahahahahahaha. I thought that was the Italians?? Bwahahahahahaha.

I dont like the US cell networks much - find them to bloody unreliable. I suppose the areas they need to cover are just to great! The irony of course is that TDMA is much better over large physical areas than CDMA (CDMA based cells breathe too much causing inconsistent coverage!).
Oh well...
 
I battle a bit with 3G, my Z800 says it has 3G connectivity, but everytime I try to make a video call, it says that it has failed to do so. Am I missing something?
 
are you provisioned for video calling? the person you are trying to call - are they provisioned, do they have a 3G video enabled phone, and do they have coverage? Are they on the same network as you?
 
Do i need a new contract for 3G?

I cannot find a 3G FAQ on this forum so I'm posting this question here (somehow the search function cannot search for '3G' or 'FAQ' cause its too short-unless i'm mistaken)

Anyway...The Question:
I am about too replace (thru insurance) my phone with a 3G phone. In order to use the 3G functionality do I have to renew my contract (according to MTNSP i have to)???:mad:

Thanks
 
Kompete said:
I cannot find a 3G FAQ on this forum so I'm posting this question here (somehow the search function cannot search for '3G' or 'FAQ' cause its too short-unless i'm mistaken)

Anyway...The Question:
I am about too replace (thru insurance) my phone with a 3G phone. In order to use the 3G functionality do I have to renew my contract (according to MTNSP i have to)???:mad:

Thanks
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No, you just have to ask them enable data on your phone number. Then if you want, you can request a data bundle as well. Just make sure you are not on an old "legacy" contract. A friend of mine got billed R25/MB for 5 months in a row due to a "miscommunication" between MTNSP and MTN.
 
3G Question

ajax said:
No, you just have to ask them enable data on your phone number. Then if you want, you can request a data bundle as well. Just make sure you are not on an old "legacy" contract. A friend of mine got billed R25/MB for 5 months in a row due to a "miscommunication" between MTNSP and MTN.
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Thanks ajax

I already have a 100M bundle loaded, which I used with my old P900 (which I lost). Does this mean I only get a USIM with the new 3G phone and I'm ready to go?
 
Kompete said:
Does this mean I only get a USIM with the new 3G phone and I'm ready to go?
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You don't require a USIM, only the 3G phone. Your current SIM will work on the 3G network. Benefits of the USIM are: 128kB memory and roaming on 3G in other countries.
 
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