MTN Fraudulent Sim Swap

Nawaar

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Every message on this MTN thread should start with...I wish to relate a tale of WOE!!!

Very regrettably, I have been forced to deal with MTN SA on several different platforms in the last month. And of all the MTN platforms I've had to work with, the most efficient was the Nigerian who politely apologized that there was nothing she could do, I would HAVE to contact MTN SA. (I nearly begged her not to make me)!

Since purchasing a promotional line and phone in 2012 from an MTN dealer, I have not had to deal with MTN even once. I plugged the phone in, used it, bought airtime. The dealer has since closed down, but my phone works wonderfully. At the beginning of June 2019 I came to make a call, and found the "Network Unavailable" message, and an sms, received 2 days earlier, indicating that if I did NOT want a sim swap done, I would have to contact them within 24 hours.

I'm going to pause from my complaint here, so we can all take a moment to bask in the stupidity of this type of system. Do all sim cards end up in phones where smses can instantly be read, think of PABX systems, routers, tablets, notebooks or smartphones without sms apps, etc, etc. Why would you not rather say, if you WANT a sim swap done, phone us, or respond to this message. Most obviosly, the person wanting the sim swap can then respond. This is a system that protects your customers from this ridiculous inconvenience???

Going back to my complaint, a sim swap was fraudulently done on our prepaid business line. So I think to myself, it should be fairly simply to undo, since apparently it is so simple to do, but no. While some anonymous person managed to do a sim swap on our line, without the sim card, we have had to speak to 7 different customer service "champions" (I kid you not, that is what they call themselves), visit an MTN branch 3 seperate times (did you know they have no contactable store numbers) and in the mean time, sit for the last 28 days without our business cell number. Now I am usually a reasonable person, so why am I so upset...because every single one of those people promised to call back with an answer, and to date, not one of them have. I have had to initiate contact each time. And since my lovely MTN phone is unavailable, I have had to use my landline! Do you know how expensive it is to make cell phone calls from a landline? Of course you do, everyone does, that is why it has become general practise to have a business cellphone, which I can't use!

When I google MTN complaints, I get endless rants similar to this one, and the common line through most of them seems to be that no-one gets back to you (and being an MTN prepaid customer is pretty crappy).

Why is this company allowed to terrorise it's customers in this way, and why, after all these years, are we still putting up with it? And what can I do????
 
Geezis if u speak to mtn with a similar wall of txt i would also ignore u.

Fraudulent simswap. Got it. What you can do is get a police case nr. Take it to mtn. Ask for a supervisor and force him to take action. Then log your issue with SAFPS and move on with your life.

Sht happens. Crime happens
 
Every message on this MTN thread should start with...I wish to relate a tale of WOE!!!

Very regrettably, I have been forced to deal with MTN SA on several different platforms in the last month. And of all the MTN platforms I've had to work with, the most efficient was the Nigerian who politely apologized that there was nothing she could do, I would HAVE to contact MTN SA. (I nearly begged her not to make me)!

Since purchasing a promotional line and phone in 2012 from an MTN dealer, I have not had to deal with MTN even once. I plugged the phone in, used it, bought airtime. The dealer has since closed down, but my phone works wonderfully. At the beginning of June 2019 I came to make a call, and found the "Network Unavailable" message, and an sms, received 2 days earlier, indicating that if I did NOT want a sim swap done, I would have to contact them within 24 hours.

I'm going to pause from my complaint here, so we can all take a moment to bask in the stupidity of this type of system. Do all sim cards end up in phones where smses can instantly be read, think of PABX systems, routers, tablets, notebooks or smartphones without sms apps, etc, etc. Why would you not rather say, if you WANT a sim swap done, phone us, or respond to this message. Most obviosly, the person wanting the sim swap can then respond. This is a system that protects your customers from this ridiculous inconvenience???

Going back to my complaint, a sim swap was fraudulently done on our prepaid business line. So I think to myself, it should be fairly simply to undo, since apparently it is so simple to do, but no. While some anonymous person managed to do a sim swap on our line, without the sim card, we have had to speak to 7 different customer service "champions" (I kid you not, that is what they call themselves), visit an MTN branch 3 seperate times (did you know they have no contactable store numbers) and in the mean time, sit for the last 28 days without our business cell number. Now I am usually a reasonable person, so why am I so upset...because every single one of those people promised to call back with an answer, and to date, not one of them have. I have had to initiate contact each time. And since my lovely MTN phone is unavailable, I have had to use my landline! Do you know how expensive it is to make cell phone calls from a landline? Of course you do, everyone does, that is why it has become general practise to have a business cellphone, which I can't use!

When I google MTN complaints, I get endless rants similar to this one, and the common line through most of them seems to be that no-one gets back to you (and being an MTN prepaid customer is pretty crappy).

Why is this company allowed to terrorise it's customers in this way, and why, after all these years, are we still putting up with it? And what can I do????

SIM swaps are mainly done to steal money from your banks account, so I guess that hasn't happened?

So what are you wanting from them? Are they not willing to do a new SIM swap for you?"
 
I'm going to pause from my complaint here, so we can all take a moment to bask in the stupidity of this type of system. Do all sim cards end up in phones where smses can instantly be read, think of PABX systems, routers, tablets, notebooks or smartphones without sms apps, etc, etc. Why would you not rather say, if you WANT a sim swap done, phone us, or respond to this message. Most obviosly, the person wanting the sim swap can then respond. This is a system that protects your customers from this ridiculous inconvenience???
Please tell me how you are going to reply that you want a sim swop done when your sim has been stolen or is not working?
 
If you are on MTN you need to enable MTN Secure. It prevents unauthorized sim swaps and port out requests.
 
A prepaid business line, are you 1 of those companies that send out spam smss?
 
Geezis if u speak to mtn with a similar wall of txt i would also ignore u.

Fraudulent simswap. Got it. What you can do is get a police case nr. Take it to mtn. Ask for a supervisor and force him to take action. Then log your issue with SAFPS and move on with your life.

Sht happens. Crime happens

I know, longwinded, I was frustrated.
This is a useful suggestion. However, they have no supervisor or manager at the store, any suggestion for someone else to take it to?
 
SIM swaps are mainly done to steal money from your banks account, so I guess that hasn't happened?

So what are you wanting from them? Are they not willing to do a new SIM swap for you?"

They claim they are unable to do the sim swap because the number belongs to a supplier. That makes no sense to me since they did the fraudulent sim swap with no problem. I just want our number back.
 
Please tell me how you are going to reply that you want a sim swop done when your sim has been stolen or is not working?

I'm so about to blow your mind...my phone and sim were not stolen at all. Someone, managed to do this, without even having my sim card.
 
I'm so about to blow your mind...my phone and sim were not stolen at all. Someone, managed to do this, without even having my sim card.
OK smartass, what about the thousands of people who's phones gets stolen? Should they ask the criminals to please send a sim swop sms before they take the phone? Maybe send a sim swop sms every morning in case you lose your phone during the day?

I know sim swops gets done illegally, my aunt lost 22k last week due to sim swop fraud but your suggestion that people should send a sms before the time for a sim swop is not feasible.
 
They claim they are unable to do the sim swap because the number belongs to a supplier. That makes no sense to me since they did the fraudulent sim swap with no problem. I just want our number back.
Who is the registered owner of the simcard? As in did you Rica the simcard or an ex employee, who has now just taken it back?
 
Who is the registered owner of the simcard? As in did you Rica the simcard or an ex employee, who has now just taken it back?

Bingo!

The OP has a prepaid number that belongs to someone else in whose name it was Rica’d.
Now that someone else (he calls it a “supplier”) is AWOL.

Seems like he bought the sim pre-rica’d. Stupid if it was for a business.
 
They claim they are unable to do the sim swap because the number belongs to a supplier. That makes no sense to me since they did the fraudulent sim swap with no problem. I just want our number back.
You bought a pre Ricad sim for business, then you want to complain about MTN for following protocol ?
Yes Sim card fraud is a problem yet you had no issue doing it first.

How do you know the true owner of the SIM didn't take their number back.
 
My wife had an "upgrade" done for her in Port Shepstone despite us living and being in Pretoria, no Sms's etc as the sim was in a mifi device. 8 months of lies, promises, a Hello Peter complaint and 11 "reference" numbers later the issue was only resolved with her still on the losing end.

My sympathies.
 
If you are on MTN you need to enable MTN Secure. It prevents unauthorized sim swaps and port out requests.
Can that be enabled on prepaid and contract and how do you enable it?
 
Can that be enabled on prepaid and contract and how do you enable it?

Yes it's for prepaid and contract. I'm not sure about the new ussd code but it was under *141*5# ussd code. Should be MTN Secure or something like that. There was a mybroadband article about it too so you can google too. It's a free service so nice to have it enabled.
 
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