Multiple backup solution

[w1z4rd]

I just had a "weird" incident where my data on one of my documents for wiped. It was a private document I had been working on for months. Regularly saving. I saved it to my Google Drive thinking it was safe.

Multiple documents were saved to the same folder.

I logged in today to see that months of my work had been wiped out. Just "deleted". The document I was working on had reverted to its state in April (none of the other documents in the same folder reverted like that).

This was an important document keeping track of some important life events, so really sad this has gone.

Needless to say. I absolutely do not trust Windows 11 or Google Drive. Between them, they lost my data. Though Im really suspicious how a document I was saving to Google drive all the time, all of a sudden decided to revert to a months old version (I had been making sure my files synced regularly) .

So now I am looking for a software solution that can backup to multiple places at the same time. Im looking for something that backs up to:

- Gdrive
- a USB drive
- a FTP share
- A dropbox share
- A onedrive share
- (perhaps email a copy of the save as well)
- (perhaps a SSH share)

Or if you know something close to this, I would really like to have a look at that.

Edit: Found this: https://duplicati.com/

 

[maumau]

Subs

 

[InvisibleJim]

In no Particular order:

Duplicati

Duplicati is a free, open-source backup solution that offers zero-trust, fully encrypted backups for your data. Integrating with all major cloud providers ensuring your data is securely stored and easily accessible.

duplicati.com

restic · Backups done right!

restic.net

Kopia

Fast and Secure Open-Source Backup Software for Windows, Mac, and Linux

kopia.io

 

[Brawler]

I have noticed a lot if my older google drive documents / photos also disappeared.

I used to also have a Onedrive sub but cancelled it (too many services) so now I have Google drive plus two external HDD that I back up to about once a month (one is kept at work, the other at home)

 

[MattyW]

This happened to my mom with some important work stuff recently as well, about 8 months of excel sheet updates were wiped and the document was reset to the version from eight months ago, we were able to recover the work by looking at the version history and restoring from there in the end only lost about 1 weeks worth of work.

 

[ubercal]

I just had a "weird" incident where my data on one of my documents for wiped. It was a private document I had been working on for months. Regularly saving. I saved it to my Google Drive thinking it was safe.

Multiple documents were saved to the same folder.

I logged in today to see that months of my work had been wiped out. Just "deleted". The document I was working on had reverted to its state in April (none of the other documents in the same folder reverted like that).

This was an important document keeping track of some important life events, so really sad this has gone.

Needless to say. I absolutely do not trust Windows 11 or Google Drive. Between them, they lost my data. Though Im really suspicious how a document I was saving to Google drive all the time, all of a sudden decided to revert to a months old version (I had been making sure my files synced regularly) .

So now I am looking for a software solution that can backup to multiple places at the same time. Im looking for something that backs up to:

- Gdrive
- a USB drive
- a FTP share
- A dropbox share
- A onedrive share
- (perhaps email a copy of the save as well)
- (perhaps a SSH share)

Or if you know something close to this, I would really like to have a look at that.

Edit: Found this: https://duplicati.com/

None of the options you mentioned are true backups.You need actual backup software , that keeps data stored in "Vaults" with proper restore / retention points.

 

[PsyWulf]

I just had a "weird" incident where my data on one of my documents for wiped. It was a private document I had been working on for months. Regularly saving. I saved it to my Google Drive thinking it was safe.

Few people know how to get to the Versions tab in Google Drive files - did you check it?

 

[w1z4rd]

Few people know how to get to the Versions tab in Google Drive files - did you check it?

Yeah, in my case none of the previous versions since May had been saved (even though I hit save on the documents, had rebooted my pc many times and made sure that gdrive was synced), but all other documents I worked on were updated to the 9th of this month when I last worked on it.. It was just my main document that was half empty. I logged into Gdrive, and there were no previous versions.

Instead of browsing to E:\Gdrive and looking for the file, I went the long way in, via c:\users\username\gdrive\etc\etc and was able to find the file. But if I had saved the "old" version it would have most likely wiped that copy out. I dont know. Something went weird with the shares and I dont trust them any more.

From now on I will control the duplication process and not rely on one cloud/pc setup.

 

[PsyWulf]

Yeah, in my case none of the previous versions since May had been saved (even though I hit save on the documents, had rebooted my pc many times and made sure that gdrive was synced), but all other documents I worked on were updated to the 9th of this month when I last worked on it.. It was just my main document that was half empty. I logged into Gdrive, and there were no previous versions.

Instead of browsing to E:\Gdrive and looking for the file, I went the long way in, via c:\users\username\gdrive\etc\etc and was able to find the file. But if I had saved the "old" version it would have most likely wiped that copy out. I dont know. Something went weird with the shares and I dont trust them any more.

From now on I will control the duplication process and not rely on one cloud/pc setup.

Fair enough!

Personally using Duplicati and sending it to Onedrive and a network share
Kopia is a little bit less-flashy but pretty easy to set and forget

 

[SauRoNZA]

So you’ve been working offline with these files using a different application and not actually Google Sheets/Docs?

Purely using Google Drive for syncing?

The only true way to always know your stuff is there and up to date is to work directly in the cloud.

 

[w1z4rd]

So you’ve been working offline with these files using a different application and not actually Google Sheets/Docs?

Purely using Google Drive for syncing?

The only true way to always know your stuff is there and up to date is to work directly in the cloud.

Yeah, I was using MS Word. I opened my document to work on it a bit today and was greeted with months of it missing. I was just relying on gdrive to sync the files and have one offsite backup. I wont do this again. Lesson learnt, and thankfully it was not too painful. More embarrassing.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Yeah, I was using MS Word. I opened my document to work on it a bit today and was greeted with months of it missing. I was just relying on gdrive to sync the files and have one offsite backup. I wont do this again. Lesson learnt, and thankfully it was not too painful. More embarrassing.

Weird though to cross providers like that.

Why is Microsoft Word inside Google Drive instead of Onedrive?

Or just switch to Google Docs, otherwise you are always going to have these kinds of problems for a lack of native integration.

 

[w1z4rd]

Weird though to cross providers like that.

Why is Microsoft Word inside Google Drive instead of Onedrive?

Or just switch to Google Docs, otherwise you are always going to have these kinds of problems for a lack of native integration.

My onedrive is often connected to work. My gdrive has my personal documents. I try keep them separate. I use Word.... because I paid for it =D

 

[SauRoNZA]

My onedrive is often connected to work. My gdrive has my personal documents. I try keep them separate. I use Word.... because I paid for it =D

Doesn’t it support simply flipping profiles for that?

 

[w1z4rd]

Doesn’t it support simply flipping profiles for that?

I dont know, the last thing I want is my personal documents accidently syncing with work stuff. So I try silo them. Perhaps you could try different profiles and that? I am not sure. I just wanted to be sure my personal documents did not end up on a random sharepoint share.

I know my system is not efficient, as evident from earlier today. I was just too lazy to do it another way.

 

[SauRoNZA]

I dont know, the last thing I want is my personal documents accidently syncing with work stuff. So I try silo them. Perhaps you could try different profiles and that? I am not sure. I just wanted to be sure my personal documents did not end up on a random sharepoint share.

I know my system is not efficient, as evident from earlier today. I was just too lazy to do it another way.

Don’t have access to office now but I’m pretty sure there was an option at the top left to switch between profiles as I recall doing exactly this when I worked in a Microsoft environment some 5 years ago and also wanted to split out work and personal.

 

[TedLasso]

OneDrive, G-Drive (including gPhotos), Apple iCloud (across my wife and myself).

My 'Server' PC (24x7 runtime) which also runs Home Assistant, Plex amongst others things has a 10TB drive.

1. For OneDrive/iCloud/Google, the software is installed keeps all a synced data on the drive. Of course, if the cloud file changes, it syncs to the PC.
2. The server via OneDrive also keeps copies of everything such as Ubiquiti , Home Assistant, Solar Assistant files -> which then stay on the cloud.

My backup routine:
Weekly (automated, scheduled Robocopy Job)
Then once a week, a scheduled Robocopy job , that does two things on a target NAS (old NAS)
Step 1. clones the 'Cloud Drive folder' on NAS to the "Cloud Drive Minus 1" (which is 1 week old snapshot).
Step 2. Then from the ServerPC, it updates the Cloud Drive folder. This way I have something in case it all goes borked

Monthly: Clone the Cloud Drive Minus 1 folder to a portable drive.

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Recently with the 925+ Synology, using the Cloud Sync app to keep the onedrive folders (2 x 1TB) + 2 x G-Drives (500GB) in a one ways sync (i.e. it only adds files from the cloud to the NAS but does not delete anything on the NAS if the cloud file is deleted). This way now, I have an 'offline' copy of the drives which I can clean up once a year by refreshing if I need it. It was really challenging at the start, with the cloud sync killing itself because of the volume of files on my onedrives. Lots of small code files, etc. Anyway resolved that.

It just sucks that Cloud Sync can't sync iCloud or else it would become by defacto solution.

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Side note: With the NAS, I was hoping to say goodbye to the cloud subs, but it breaks too much of my workloads, so sadly I continue to pay for all of them!!l Synology Photos works, but it kinda sucks and I don't have the patience to redo all face tagging as I have in Google Photos. I see Immich has reached v2 , so when I get the courage and time, I will look at that.

 

[TedLasso]

In no Particular order:

Duplicati

Duplicati is a free, open-source backup solution that offers zero-trust, fully encrypted backups for your data. Integrating with all major cloud providers ensuring your data is securely stored and easily accessible.

duplicati.com

restic · Backups done right!

restic.net

Kopia

Fast and Secure Open-Source Backup Software for Windows, Mac, and Linux

kopia.io

Kopia looks interesting!

It truly truly sucks that Apple keeps the iCloud platform as an island. It's my data, if I wish to reduce my 'security' let me make that decision. Ah well. Trying to get the vrou of that. I have been using a Mac recently - but saving everything in my OneDrive.