Mweb BAN at what point?

[SabreWolfy]

mewhere, takes time with some people. So they advertise not what they preach then. HTTP are not shaped and thus I should be able to use it as I please, therefore the "Uncapped" See there are to many "connotations" to the Mweb deal. They want e-mail readers and whatever, not active users. As I said, better use the other ISP's that do not have this CEO schit attitude, those who understand the meaning of Internet at speed.[/QUOTE]

I am not insulting YOU i was referring to the baseline discussion in as much a four threads on the same topic. Please take note it was not aimed specifically at you.

Also just for information (for us) are you a Mweb rep? or just self appointed?

Ok, understood; I must have misinterpreted your comments. To reply to your OP above then: the issue of HTTP downloading is that it is unshaped, which means that downloading 24/7 every month on this account allows the user to move a massive amount of data every month on what is essentially a very cheap, entry-level "consumer" account rather than a "heavy downloader" account. This falls foul of various sections of the T&C.

Remember that only a few users have been contacted by MWeb regarding contravening the T&C, which constitutes a very small percentage of the total user base. Contravening the T&C requires a specific, concerted effort over an extended period of time. The service is uncapped, so MWeb expects that large amounts of data will be moved. However, bypassing shaping or maxing out the line 24/7 creates excess load on the network. The vast majority of users will never be in contravention of the T&C. Remember that ADSL is a SHARED service, whether you like it not. If you max out your line 24/7, you are not playing fair. If, however, you download at line speed for a while today, and a while tomorrow, and again next week, or whever -- that is, normal usage -- there will not be a problem. Queue downloads such that your line runs at line speed 24/7 and you will be in contravention of the T&C. MWeb specifically offers a product for this type of usage.

 

[xrapidx]

Perhaps they should rather just make more concrete terms and conditions

Thats basically what most of the people want - not this crap of deciding what to do about subscribers as and when they see fit.

 

[I am Penguin]

, understood; I must have misinterpreted your comments. To reply to your OP above then: the issue of HTTP downloading is that it is unshaped, which means that downloading 24/7 every month on this account allows the user to move a massive amount of data every month on what is essentially a very cheap, entry-level "consumer" account rather than a "heavy downloader" account. This falls foul of various sections of the T&C.

Remember that only a few users have been contacted by MWeb regarding contravening the T&C, which constitutes a very small percentage of the total user base. Contravening the T&C requires a specific, concerted effort over an extended period of time. The service is uncapped, so MWeb expects that large amounts of data will be moved. However, bypassing shaping or maxing out the line 24/7 creates excess load on the network. The vast majority of users will never be in contravention of the T&C. Remember that ADSL is a SHARED service, whether you like it not. If you max out your line 24/7, you are not playing fair. If, however, you download at line speed for a while today, and a while tomorrow, and again next week, or whever -- that is, normal usage -- there will not be a problem. Queue downloads such that your line runs at line speed 24/7 and you will be in contravention of the T&C. MWeb specifically offers a product for this type of usage.

Playing fair is relative. There are many hundreds who just browse and check e-mails as that is all that they are used too. If such a small percentage, as Mweb claim, has such a big effect on their network services then again I feel they are sub par and/or are just fear mongering and bullying their customers. Then again there are better services available.