Mweb - MASSIVE security concern; recycled email addresses

Zewp

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You might get the occasional host like Openweb who probably tie in the email address to your full user account (of all your services) like Cybersmart does... but the rest of the industry is going to continue selling their resources to paying customers.

So tell me again, how is simply not assigning an email address of an old customer to a new customer costing Mweb money? The ex-customer doesn't have access to that email address, nor is there a reserved amount of space on their mail server for that customer.

I still don't see how not recycling yourname71@isp.co.za is a bad thing.
 

w1z4rd

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So tell me again, how is simply not assigning an email address of an old customer to a new customer costing Mweb money? The ex-customer doesn't have access to that email address, nor is there a reserved amount of space on their mail server for that customer.

No, you are reframing what I said so it suites your agenda.

The new customer called john smith, wants johnsmith@myisp.co.za. If a PAYING customer wants an email address thats not in use, its unfair on that paying customer not to get that email address just because some old customer is too lazy to update his contacts. You are being unreasonable.

Not everyone wants: johnsmith49302759834759834765983759384759834578934579384573984753985798234723984@myisp.co.za just because there are a host of previous john smiths who were too lazy to update their contact details.
 
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Zewp

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I'm still not seeing it (and lol at me 'reframing' what you said to suit my 'agenda'). It's an email username. What's the big fukking deal? Someone else had johnsmith@isp.co.za before you, so take johnsmith23@isp.co.za and get on with your life.

Here's the way I see it. I've had myname54@mweb.co.za for four years now. If I cancel my Mweb account today, someone else could receive myname54@mweb.co.za in three months. This is a pretty major security concern for me because I have tons of accounts tied to my email account. I say BS to your insinuation that I'm 'too lazy to update my contacts.' Maybe if you learned to read you'd have read this upwards in the thread already, but of course I'm going to change the email addresses on all my accounts. I'm not exactly going to leave my accounts tied to a defunct email address. What concerns me is if I miss a single account somewhere, my security could possibly be compromised. A simple way to ensure this doesn't happen to any costumers would be to not assign previously used email addresses to new costumers.

And please don't feed me bull**** that this is entirely on the costumer. You go and cancel everything that's tied to your email account right now and let me know if you don't miss even a single thing. Go on. Ever since reading this policy I've been looking for accounts of mine across the web and moving them to my Gmail account. So far I've changed the email address on more than 60. 11 of those contained my financial information. All it would take is a single one of them to slip my mind and my security could be compromised.
 

TheGrove

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Don't understand why you have an issue with this, If I buy a domain and then cancel it and don't make payments then are you saying that the name can never be used again? that will never happen the moment you cancell that name goes up for grabs, just like your cell number, etc etc.

It's only yours as long as you are paying for it, this is not a MWEB thing.
 

w1z4rd

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Don't understand why you have an issue with this, If I buy a domain and then cancel it and don't make payments then are you saying that the name can never be used again? that will never happen the moment you cancell that name goes up for grabs, just like your cell number, etc etc.

It's only yours as long as you are paying for it, this is not a MWEB thing.

Exactly.

You can use the example as PO Boxes, House address`s, telephone numbers, cell numbers and domain names but he will just say you are comparing apples with oranges. I guess he still has to work out how the real word works. /shrug
 
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Zewp

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Don't understand why you have an issue with this, If I buy a domain and then cancel it and don't make payments then are you saying that the name can never be used again? that will never happen the moment you cancell that name goes up for grabs, just like your cell number, etc etc.

It's only yours as long as you are paying for it, this is not a MWEB thing.

We're talking about email accounts, not domain names.
 

TheGrove

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Exactly.

You can use the example as PO Boxes, House address`s, telephone numbers, cell numbers and domain names but he will just say you are comparing apples with oranges. I guess he still has to work out how the real word works. /shrug

+10000 but this seems to be a case of people looking for attention and attacking MWEB, I am annoyed about the way that they are implementing their AUP but this is silly.
 

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We're talking about email accounts, not domain names.

What is the difference, if you setup a gmail account joeblog@gmail.com and then cancel it, do you believe Gmail won't allow someone else to start using it?

There is no difference in reality.

http://blog.mailchimp.com/yahoo-is-recycling-email-addresses/

If you actually made the effort to check you would see most if not all companies do this, if they admit it or not is a different story.

Gmail will keep your account safe for 60 days, after that it is open season.

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/61177?rd=1
 
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