MWEB peering move a damp squib?

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Durandal

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Despite all the hoo-ha when this was announced, it's gone very quiet. Has it turned into a massive damp squib with Telkom et al just ignoring MWEB? :confused:
 
The 'controversy' seems to have gone quiet. Some local browsing is slow (MyBB), and latency is poor (gamers), but otherwise its a non-event.

Most likely MWeb took a calculated risk about the relative costs vs 'collateral damage'.

It could be one or two years before infrastructure (DFA) or legislation (laughs!) restores local routing.
 
IMO, yes, Telkom/MTN is just ignoring MWEB and their attempts. Most likely because they think MWEB's interest is based purely off of financial gain... which would make you think, if it's cheaper for them to route local traffic internationally first... how much were those interconnect fee's!?!

You'll notice that the reason why it's gone quiet is most probably because these companies do not want the bad press generated from MWEB cutting ties. Non-techsavvy people won't care at all. So they just pretend there's no problem and business as usual so the (Web Africa Trademarked) "mom & pop" operations don't catch wind of what is actually going on behind the scenes.

10 years ago Telkom lost their rights to monopolize... it took Neotel a very long time to even start to operate (mostly due to Telkom)... and even then local-loop unbundling hasn't happened. If it has, you'd see Neotel ADSL including a few other players offer those services at cheaper prices very fast....but alas, only a pipe dream.

Why would you want to grow your country's economy when you can make a ****load of money off of your citizens?
 
Does anyone else notice that MWeb are peering with MTN-Business (Hetzner) via JINX today (Friday) instead of going via London?

I noticed this routing on Wednesday when MWeb international was routed via JINX-TENET-SEACOM.

Any idea if this is likely to be a permanent solution?

P.S. SAIX is still going via London.

Code: 
Tracing route to mybroadband.co.za [41.203.21.137]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

   1     1 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
   2     6 ms     6 ms     7 ms  41-132-48-1.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.132.48.1]
   3     7 ms     8 ms     7 ms  196-28-178-202.adsl.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.202]
   4    69 ms    67 ms    67 ms  gig-0-0-2.vic-hscore-3.mweb.co.za [196.22.169.49]
   5    32 ms    33 ms    32 ms  196.22.169.61
   6    34 ms    35 ms    34 ms  tengig-0-0-0-0-11.vic-up-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.169.225]
   7    43 ms    46 ms    49 ms  g-0-3-vic-jinx-2.mweb.co.za [196.22.163.1]
   8    51 ms    51 ms    49 ms  static161-134.netactive.co.za [196.22.161.134]
   9    33 ms    34 ms    33 ms  jh-cr-2.za--jh-pr-1.za.mtnns.net [196.44.0.223]
  10    35 ms    34 ms    35 ms  196.44.31.99
  11    34 ms    35 ms    37 ms  196.30.1.21
  12    35 ms    33 ms    35 ms  vlan9.hr3.jnb6.za.mtnbusiness.net [196.30.156.136]
  13    34 ms    33 ms    34 ms  196.30.213.108
  14    36 ms    34 ms    34 ms  firewall1.jnb2.host-h.net [196.7.216.173]
  15    34 ms    34 ms    34 ms  mybroadband.co.za [41.203.21.137]

Trace complete.
 
It certainly looks like MTN and MWeb are peering locally again. However, don't expect any fanfare over this, since these deals are subject to non-disclosure agreements.
 
tested and getting same from my connection
so now it is just to get telscum to come to the party
 
true only partial victory
but it's early days yet and this WAR will be won :p
 
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