My new build..

Feo don't get talked into blowing cash on memory if you are not going to use it man.

What do you do on your pc? Do you use programs that will use more than 4 gb memory?
 
killadoob said:
Feo don't get talked into blowing cash on memory if you are not going to use it man.

What do you do on your pc? Do you use programs that will use more than 4 gb memory?
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When one day he decides to run a CAD program or some simulator on MS XP VM because it's incompatible with windows7. Or just experiment with some huge resource hungry "ware"

Geesh!
 
For those interested to know "facts"

Conclusion

The results from this application note clearly demonstrate that anyone who is considering building a new PC for Windows 7, or upgrading their current PC to optimize performance for Windows 7, should include a high-density memory kit (8GB or more) and solid-state drive in order to take advantage of the performance gains that this operating system can provide
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Why 8GB is so much faster

The reason why the digital images load so much faster with 8GB of RAM is simply due to the fact that more memory is available to load and decompress the high-resolution photos. With only 4GB of RAM installed, Windows 7 quickly runs out of Physical RAM and has to fall back on the pagefile. As you can see from the screenshots below, the Physical Memory usage in the 8GB system is considerably higher.
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4GB
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8GB
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Corsair recently conducted some testing into the benefits of using 8GB and larger memory densities with Windows 7, and the results were compelling. The full results of the testing can be found in the new Windows 7 System Builder’s Guide. In summary, we found that upgrading to 8GB or more of memory significantly reduced the time taken to perform everyday functions, such as photo loading, particularly when using a 64-bit image editing application, such as Paint.NET (which is conveniently also free). Windows 7 also effectively uses free memory as a ‘cache’ to store commonly used program code and data, improving responsiveness.

Rather than delve into the specifics of why 8GB provided such notable improvements (since this is described in detail in the application note) it is the aspect of improved responsiveness and ‘feel’ that I’ll be discussing more in this post.

By ‘responsiveness’ and ‘feel’ I mean events that contribute to a sensation of increased performance, but that are actually quite hard to put your finger on, let alone or benchmark. For example, the ability to instantly switch between different Windows or applications, or to open a new application or file instantly, or simply have many different Windows and applications open without the system becoming sluggish. These aspects are difficult to convey in an analytical way, but are as important to overall performance as faster game or photo loading times, simply because many small improvements add up to a noticeably improved experience.

With 8GB or more of RAM there is basically enough space in which to store all the data the operating system needs, whereas with 4GB or less you often experience performance ‘blips’ or stutters that occur as a result of the system accessing data in the paging file on the storage drive.

The best way to experience how adding memory improves the responsiveness/feel of the computer is to actually use 8GB or more of memory for a few weeks, and then drop back to 4GB. As Joni Mitchell famously said (though probably not in relation to DDR memory), “you don’t know what you’ve got ‘till its gone.” and this is very true of more RAM. With 8GB or more you simply get used to the smoothness and responsiveness of the system, and the ability to leave all your applications running. The latter aspect is where Windows 7 really helps because, as mentioned earlier, the interface intelligently manages the different windows and applications, making it easy to navigate.
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killadoob said:
Well like i said if you need 8gb buy it, if you do not don't buy it.

Pretty simple really :D.
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Do you really need that fancy GPU card? The wireless mouse, the latest CPU i(anything), the "fast' drive with huge capacity.

I agree if you are aged and only need e-mail you do not need any of it! :D
 
Me thinks me need order another 4GB 'cos I want to has.

Then again, would Corsair say you need less memory? I mean, it's their business. Imagine where they'd be if they told everyone "no, actually buy less from us". :)
 
Get 4GB first, if you need more later on then buy it later on. DDR3 prices will only go down until DDR4 is released.

@TheRift, not sure if you watched it but it reminds me of that episode in Two And a Half Men where Alan bought that Porsche Boxster
 
TheRift said:
Me thinks me need order another 4GB 'cos I want to has.

Then again, would Corsair say you need less memory? I mean, it's their business. Imagine where they'd be if they told everyone "no, actually buy less from us". :)
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No! .... they would rather post spam and lie, then others who knows better can take them to shreds. Maybe that will do their name good instead of giving proof with examples that can be repeated by any noob easily to duplicate to proof the fact!
 
I am Penguin said:
No! .... they would rather post spam and lie, then others who knows better can take them to shreds. Maybe that will do their name good instead of giving proof with examples that can be repeated by any noob easily to duplicate to proof the fact!
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See, I told you.

:D

Just kidding by the way ... just in case some people take my comment seriously.
 
Buying 8GB of RAM now will cost you more than it will to add another 4GB of RAM should you need too in future. Besides, running 8GB of RAM may drop you to 2T (most likely will) instead of 1T which is quite a bit faster.

I use 100% the time high end machines and all on Win7 64-bit, going from 6GB Tripple channel to as low as 2GB dual channel at various times. Going from 4GB to 6Gb or the other way around makes absolutely no difference. Maybe I dont' have as many applications open as some people, but I rarely find that I need to transcode video, d/l torrents, compile code, render 3D etc at the same time. 4GB is more than enough for that.
On that rig, if you want better performance try go for the 860 processor with HT it'll definately transcode video faster, compile faster, etc than the i5-750.

As for what Corsair says, they wouldn't say anything different in their right minds. Especially with their new line of 8GB sets for the newer P/H55/57 platform. Keep in mind that they will push these kits more than they will tripple channel kits because these dual channel (two or four) stick kits fit AMD's AM3 platform as well, so they can market and target two platforms with the same kits for the most part. Not so much tripple channel where the same argument would have to be made for 12GB of RAM instead of 6GB.

My 2cents
 
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Randhir said:
If it's cheap to go from the 4GB RAM to 8GB, why not? Rather have it than not, you don't know all your requirements for the future.
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doesn't a fat load of RAM chow power...

i don't think anyone in the world actually cares though but yah
 
reedOsama said:
doesn't a fat load of RAM chow power...

i don't think anyone in the world actually cares though but yah
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I'm sure the power consumption will be negligable considering they only run at 1.65v (sometimes lower) and it's only used to store data, it doesn't do much, if any processing
 
Current consumption should be negligible so don't expect to short out the house with them.

Some of us do care about power consumption. My current quad-core rig is actually consuming 65W less on idle than the previous 6-year old single-core rig. But the old one had most of the drives spinning most of the time. On this one it does get irritating when it switches the drives off so often. I can probably save just about the energy it uses if Asus' big power saving feature actually worked as indicated. :p
 
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