n00b Retr/Pal Question

[NESmerized]

Hi all, i have only recently started playing wow. Damn addictive game. Anyway in my infinite noobdom I spent 7 talent points in the protection tree and only after I read some guides did I realize that I want to specialize in retribution(DPS). Would it be best for me to reroll a new pally or do I continue and re-assign my talent points (which will cost me 76g) eventually when I have that sort of money? Lvl 16 atm.

 

[volstruis]

leave it like it is. THe lvling retri build has points in prot too thinks it is 5 or 6. Go over to wowwiki and look at the pally talent builds.

 

[werries2]

Hi all, i have only recently started playing wow. Damn addictive game. Anyway in my infinite noobdom I spent 7 talent points in the protection tree and only after I read some guides did I realize that I want to specialize in retribution(DPS). Would it be best for me to reroll a new pally or do I continue and re-assign my talent points (which will cost me 76g) eventually when I have that sort of money? Lvl 16 atm.

76g! I think you have read something wrong!
your first tallent respec is for free, then 1g, 10g up to 50g (max)
After some months the fee for respecking drops down again to about 15g.

If you dont want to spend the gold to respec now play as a tank paladin for a bit it might be slower to kill stuff but no need to re-roll a new char!

Good luck, and welcome to World of Warcraft!

 

[Cloud]

Hi all, i have only recently started playing wow. Damn addictive game. Anyway in my infinite noobdom I spent 7 talent points in the protection tree and only after I read some guides did I realize that I want to specialize in retribution(DPS). Would it be best for me to reroll a new pally or do I continue and re-assign my talent points (which will cost me 76g) eventually when I have that sort of money? Lvl 16 atm.

Hi NESmerized

You can re-spec your talents for free if you have never done it in the past on that particular character. They made it that way especially for new players to experiment a bit.

Your re-spec costs will never go higher than 50g a a time.

 

[Cloud]

lol, damn u beat me to it Werris ^_^

 

[NESmerized]

Respec

Hey thx for the quick replies guys. I must have it wrong then. I had it like this: need to respec 7 points, 1st = 0g, 2nd = 1g, 3rd = 5g, 4th = 10g etc. Added them together and got 76g. Are you telling me that the "first time" you respec, all points you respec are free and after that you start paying?

 

[Dusk]

To original poster...

Coming from someone that has a lvl 70 paladin, a couple words of advice.

A paladin does not really excell at DPS unless you really really know what you doing.
Palas are the lowest DPS class in the game.
You will end up being healer more than you would want to.
Get used to getting called a loladin
Until we get some serious buffs (predicted for next big patch 2.3 ) stay away from paladin if you want to DPS.
If you looking for dps , roll a warrior or rogue (your choice definately shows you looking for a melee fighter).

I am in no means trying to stomp on your dreams of becoming a DPS monster pala, just mentioning that since you new to the game you might be expecting the wrong things from your paladin.

Paladin also one of the slowest classes to level up.
If you decide to stick it out as your paladin and get to 70 Well Done mate enjoy one of the not so powerfull but the best adaptable class in wow.

 

[Dusk]

If you pay to respec you dont pay per talent... you pay for a complete reset. Meaning all your talents get "freed" up again for redistribution.

 

[werries2]

If you pay to respec you dont pay per talent... you pay for a complete reset. Meaning all your talents get "freed" up again for redistribution.

Also take note that some spells/skills you learn from your trainer could be tallent based. In these cases you will have to retrain the spells/skills involved there

 

[NESmerized]

Excellent!!

OIC, thats a relief. I was in a bad mood all day just thinking about having to possibly reroll my char. And thx for all the replies. Will have to go think about which char is best for me. I was under the impression that the paladin could DPS with the best of them. Def. don't want to become a healer type in the group

 

[Dusk]

OIC, thats a relief. I was in a bad mood all day just thinking about having to possibly reroll my char. And thx for all the replies. Will have to go think about which char is best for me. I was under the impression that the paladin could DPS with the best of them. Def. don't want to become a healer type in the group

As werries said, some of the spells might be talent based so after a respec dont forget to ask for training also.
If you dont wanna heal dont ever become a hybrid class . You will have to heal at some point or another and normally more than you would like .
If you want DPS only go rogue.
If you want tank and dps capable class go warrior.
You will most of your low levels be expected to tank as warrior and seeing as you new to the game it might not be the best choice.
My opinion go rogue.

 

[Dusk]

I was under the impression that the paladin could DPS with the best of them.

Maybe at a later stage but at the moment the retri tree needs some love and hopefully 2.3 will give it some TLC until then dont count on it.


PS : Paladins used to be powerfull.
Anyone say reckoning bomb
For those that dont know, there was a paladin that stacked up reckoning (was unlimited stacks then - only stackable to 4 now) and went to kazzak and soloed him in about 10 secs
After that paladins got nerfed badly and the loving never really came back.
Im sure youll find a video clip if you look for it on Youtube.

 

[werries2]

OIC, thats a relief. I was in a bad mood all day just thinking about having to possibly reroll my char. And thx for all the replies. Will have to go think about which char is best for me. I was under the impression that the paladin could DPS with the best of them. Def. don't want to become a healer type in the group

Yea unfortunatly in groups 90% of the time you will be asked to heal, and 10% to tank if you are defence specked or even backup heal. But never to dps.

At level 70 you get a few exceptional Paladins that can dps, but these are 1/1000. And they are never in the to 10% or raid dps

If you want to do dps and be invited to many a group go mage or rogue.
Warrior will be invited as tank most of the time and priest/druid/shaman as healer.
Warlocks and hunters are mostly overlooked but they are pure dps too.

 

[werries2]

For dps classes I am biased towards mages, due to their sheep capabilities and buffing, bread and water ofc When on my mage or warrior I get constant requests to join for an instant, but not so on my rogue or hunter.

 

[Blatman]

Dusk don't be so hard on your class you guys are great healers

 

[Dusk]

Dusk don't be so hard on your class you guys are great healers

Im not hard on my class.
I just hate being forced into a specific spec because the other specs are broken.

I just feel it needs some well deserved TLC in all the talent specs it offers.
Having tanked quite a bit and healed quite a bit and recently specced to pvp (retri noob) i know the class inside out.
A paladin can get to top 2/3 of dps charts (i have achieved this ) but it only happens on long fights cause you need to basicaly stack every possible stackable spell to get you going.
So basicaly you have to spend the first 2 mins stacking spells and trinkets etc before you even start doing propper dps and this on one mob.
As soon as that mob drops (which is before your 2 minute Spell stacking sequence is complete) you have to start all over on next mob.
So only mobs you tend to be able to get the full dps a pala has to offer normally only shows at boss fights .
Pvp you dont fight for 2 mins per character (Unless its 2 paladins fighting each other LOLMAO). The class lacks a lot in the supposed PVP/DPS tree.

 

[Oculate]

Dusk that was an awesome vid

stacked it 1817 times, took 3hrs and apparently 3 broken weaps...

think kazzak went down after 5-7 shots

 

[Dusk]

HEehehehe yeah it is quite epic.
The last time a paldin was truelly powerfull.
Sad that we got nerfed into oblivion after that , would have very cool if you got still stack reckoning like that.... I reckon you could kill illidan without him actually even changing form LOLMAO and we could be in for a chance to actually kill a warlock every now and then LOL.

 

[h0ll0w]

Paladin is a healer.

very very very few guilds will take a retri pala to progression raids, IE when attempting new bosses, because you need the absolute best you can get, and paladins are best at healing, and **** at DPS. Trust me you'll need Full Merciless and Veteran gear and something like Hammer of the Naaru before you can begin to keep up with real DPS Classes.

That said though I have seen retnoobs in exceptional gear comfortably outDPS'ing average rogues.

 

[Dusk]

Paladin is a healer.

Exactly why im rolling a rogue now and changing my paladin to farm bot.
This way when WTLK comes out Ill have the following

1)Paladin healer / farmbot - Healing class
2)Rogue - DPS
3)Deathknight - Tank
4)still thinking about a class to create purely for PVP purposes.

Which means no more problems when LFG.
This doesnt mean that i wouldnt want my paladin changing into something else , it just means that I AM PREPARED this time.
hehehehhe.
Paladin needs one multiple target healing spell though.

One thing i have decided is to abandon the need to get into as many raids as i can and rather focus on rather getting more alts to 70 cause when WTLK comes those phat purples will once again mean nothing and will be replaced by northrend greens and blues.