Need advice for online gaming

Gohan_SS said:
Cant you get a 24\7 128K line which is uncapped or am i asking stupid questions?
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You could always get Sentech Mywireless 128k package but the pings range (on mine) from an ave of 120 sometimes spiking to 200. Its very playable but unless you reaaaly want low pings then make a plan with your admin friend :D

R650pm with modem, R500 without (modem costs R3.5k :eek: )
 
Playable? Are you freaking insane? Sentech + FPS is NOT playable. I would rather play with a freaking 28.8k modem online than Sentech's offering!

In any case, the REASON why most people install ADSL is because a leased line is too freaking expensive!

Gohan, it wouldnt matter if your administrator upgraded the leased line to 512k, because if their bandwidth managing software (assuming they even have that) is up to ****, it means that the other folks would hog the extra bandwidth anyway.

Before you pay anything extra, find out what type of bandwidth management software they run to make sure everything is divided equally and everyone gets an even portion of the line.

Because if they have bandwidth management software, it means they can in fact allocate more bandwidth towards your flat and then charge you extra for it (on your request).

Being capped does not nessacarily mean you're screwed. You can either take the expensive option and buy another account. Or you could look at services like www.nukecap.co.za which offers a local proxy server you could peer to to get to international sites.

a Proxy server (locally) means you can browse international sites at decent speeds, and not have it crawl and time out like it currently does when you are capped. Obviously they charge an extra fee each month.

I am sure if you go through the previous discussions on the ADSL related threads, you'll see how much gig you should expect to use up in a month doing normal surfing and gameplay.

You should seriously have a sit-down with the administrator and let him explain the setup to you. Make notes, cause even if you don't understand, you can come here and explain the whole setup, and we'll try and give you the best advice we can.

Good luck
 
Project Derail-A-Thread

noone, that has to be the most informative post I've seen coming from you in the 2-odd months I've been a member... :eek:
 
noone said:
Playable? Are you freaking insane? Sentech + FPS is NOT playable. I would rather play with a freaking 28.8k modem online than Sentech's offering!
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It is :)

All the 4 FPS and 1 MMORPG games that i play online are playable, not enjoyable at times but still.. ;)
 
Razer, i have to see it to believe it. I've been a Sentech consumer since they started till last year November and NEVER had a stable enough ping to actually play an FPS game without having to run the same freaking 10 steps 4 times... before getting killed for no apparent reason (later found out the dude ran past me, while shooting and i never saw it coming..wtf?!)

Raithlin, I have been very informative in the past, I also use this board to relieve some stress/tension.

I'm just really not in the mood for work, and Gohan doesn't seem stoopid :P
 
Hi guys

I have to say something first, I WILL BE ATTENDING MY FIRST BIG LAN on the 18th, langames.co.za sent me a message saying i was accepted as participant. I know i might sound like a freak but you have no idea how much i was looking forward to this, in Namibia we did not know what the word LAN meant, so its pretty cool for me.

Anyway, i had the meeting with the admin and the connection is apparantly setup by CRC, dont know who they are but i hope its better than sentech ;)
He said that it is a first come first serve type effort connection, there is no bandwith sharing software but according to him the bandwith should not be killed by downloading or whatever the idiot thats sucking it dry is doing, some other place allocates or controls the flow of bandwith to the apartments.

All that this means is that i pay really high rent for my connection and whoever started downloading 5 700meg movies 3 days before i moved in,is getting all the bandwith,paying the same rent as me and im sitting with 10k bandwith because i came three days later. I pay just as much as everyone else but my connection is terribly slow, i think its really unfair, this first come first serve setup is a ball of ****. :mad:

The admin also mentioned that the network utilization should be at least 70 percent because the better your connection to the switch is, the more you can receive and thus it will increase your inet connection speed, something ive been thinking of alot.

The sick thing is that yesterday and pretty much today the download speed was 1.80KB\sec. THATS INSANE! The other thing that he said was that there is no file sharing allowed on the LAN, so it means only one thing, someone is raping the connection with big downloads.

SO that is what i gathered from him today............any advice or comments would help. Thanks guys. :(
 
Did you confront him with the slow speeds? And the fact that someone must be raping the bandwidth because it can't be that slow all the time?

The fact that he said "first comes first served" and then lateron "some other place allocates or controls the flow of bandwidth to the apartments" is bullsh1t.

It's either OR, not both.
 
I confronted him about the speed and he said he does not understand why it is so slow. He is going to have another meeting with the ISP and then he will hopefully find out what is going on and sort it out as well, i think they are going to stop all downloading priveleges, i think that will help alot, it might even sort out my lag and high pings in the games.

I hope on line gaming is part of the uploading duplex otherwise im screwed like a bombay prostitute.
 
Gohan_SS said:
The admin also mentioned that the network utilization should be at least 70 percent because the better your connection to the switch is, the more you can receive and thus it will increase your inet connection speed, something ive been thinking of alot.
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Um, ok correct me if i'm wrong, but the connection to the switch is 100mbps. That works out to 12.5 megaBYTES per second. (100 / 8). 70% of that figure works out to 8.75 megabytes per second. So if that entire network utilization is going towards the internet connection (which it probably is) you should have a connection of 8.75 megs per second. And we all know that's not possible.


I think the admin there doesn't know entirely what he's talking about because he said once that everyone should have 64k of bandwidth; and now he says it's first come first serve. Can't be both!!!

Although we're not sure what kind of line he's got installed there, i'm still pretty sure that your ping spikes and bandwidth problems are caused by other people abusing the connection.

Not sure what you mean by the uploading duplex, but online gaming involves uploads AND downloads. The amount of bandwidth used obviously varies from game to game.

Also don't think too much about that download speed of 1.80KB/S. I was donwloading something today from an international sight at around 2k/s on my adsl. I suggest maybe go to www.myadsl.co.za and try their speed test (top of page) a few times and see what you get.
 
Im just as confused as you are, i only gather info from the admin; he is a really good guy but something tells me that he is not in control of all the operations concerning this connection, i think he might just be a link between the residents of the block and internet villiage. They are the org that handles these kind of connections. They call themselves the internet villiage, they buy bandwith in bulk if im not mistaking and then installs connections in flat blocks. So i think the problem might be lying at the internet villiage. I dont know what to think anymore, the admin just spoke in circles and the info he gives does not make sense, i mean he said that there is no B\W sharing sofware but at the same time he said that he can allocate extra BW to my flat. Hows that possible and did ANY of you ever hear about this internet villiage?? :confused:
 
Gohan_SS, I think you might be able to get some more info about the type of connection & ISP if you did a:
Code: 
tracert www.mybroadband.co.za
(actually any url would be ok, but for simplicity use that), then look at the various IP addresses along the way. If it is an ADSL connection you might not be able to tell which ISP (I am subject to correction there), but you should be able to make some informed assumptions.
 
or he could just do a backtrace and see who owns the IP address he is using (gets allocated by blocks)

as for the internet village, could be, heard about internet-ready flats with PC's several years back already, not sure who does the internet though.
 
noone said:
or he could just do a backtrace and see who owns the IP address he is using (gets allocated by blocks)
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I was getting to that, but he really needs the gateway IP addy - his is prolly a 192.168.*.*
 
Hi guys

This is REALLY getting confusing, i spoke to my admin again and what concerns him is my utilization from my PC to the switch. He blames the slow connection on that, and now he wants to send someone over to test my cable coming to my flat, according to him im the only tenant that has such slow connection speeds and little bandwidth quantities. Its really weird, do you think its possible that my cable might be problematic or something??

Yesterday i could not even get this page oen to post a reply and it took me 7 minutes to open msn homepage, my download speed was 788 BYTES P\S. i mean really, that is unexceptable, don't you think?

Another question, i formatted my HD about 2 days ago and all the internet settings is default, is there anything i can change to improve the connection? :o
 
Gohan_SS, yes it could be the cable that's a problem - rats you know like to chew through things. Let the dude check your cable, no harm in eliminating that as a possible cause.

To improve your browser speed, ensure that you use FireFox as your browser, then look at [thread=16552]this thread[/thread] bcos there are some additional setting changes which will super-charge FireFox even more.
 
Thanx IC, im sure it will help, i just read the threads on that, it looks like its worthwile installing it! Something tells me its not the line that is the problem, is there really nothing one can change on your network card or advanced internet options, ive discovered that windows takes 20% of the bandwidth to itself for some useless reason and im going to set the system limit to 0%, i hope thats going to help though.

Any comments on the admins belief that the connection speed is slow because of the little utilization from my pc to the switch (the network utilization).

The other thing, you guys probably know about these netboosters and stuff, do they even work and should i download some and see what it does or am i wasting my time?
 
as I said before, someone might be using the network alot, not really the internet connection though

what could be is that they daisy chained the whole network setup and your flat is at the end of this daisy chain.

believe it or not, people can be stupid like that. they put in a hub with 10 ports @ one place, then realise they need to expand, so they daisy chain 2 hubs together, effectively killing the effieciency of the network
 
Thats an interesting point noone but then why am i the only tenant who has the slow speeds, according to the admin its only my apartment that has the low utilization and internet speeds, so i think if it was connected as you mentioned above, more people would have been affected by it. This connection thing is really starting to get annoying, its weird that the admin blames it on the low utilization of the connection from my network card to the switch. Do you guys think he has a good point or is he trying to say anything to give me false hope or mind f__ck me.

By the way, firefox is really good, just installed it, not too shabby.
 
Good stuff, another FireFox convert I hope. Have a look at the cool extension that you can add-on.

I suggest wait until the admin dude has check out the cable, it is a valid concern, if that's eliminated as a cause then let him bring a laptop & connect up from your place, run the same speed test stuff a few times from your PC & his laptop, if his is a lot faster then chances are that it's your PC or network card.

BTW, you have firewall s/w, anti-virus s/w, anti-malware s/w, correct? If so is it up to date & is your PC patched?

Apologies if you've already answered that somewhere else on this thread, just too many posts to go check right now ;)
 
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