Need help selling websites

[Adenoid Hynkel]

Where is that black-hat?

Raevin pm me.

 

[SilverNodashi]

I think you will find what you are doing breaks several of Google's terms and conditions. Good luck to you, but you sound dodgy and what you are doing is super dodgy, and even worse when it blows up in your and your client's face, it's going to give professionals who work in the web industry a bad name.

I would love to know what google terms and conditions he's breaking, exactly.

 

[frikkie6000]

I would love to know what google terms and conditions he's breaking, exactly.

Reselling sites they way he is doing is definitely black hat SEO as he is reselling it for the SEO Ranking, but a article post on google forum would be good will check if I can find one

Where is that black-hat?

Raevin pm me.

There are 2 options here

1. You sell a site to someone
2. You sell a site that's "rank" and "maintain the ranking" ??

Not only is this fraud but black hat SEO as well as you cannot claim a site is SEO optimized and "maintain the ranking"

Whats even more worrying is that the OP only does this and does not optimize client sites, very sceptical about providing links to his work as well makes one wonder ....

Now if one would go back to the basics

What does it mean if a site is SEO optimized ? (Everyone will have their own opinion on this some believe link building etc works where I for example believe contents is king)

How can SEO Results be measured ? I personally feel that on-line marketing has a lot of loop holes as every company although they have one goal in common results are measured completely different from one another

Going back to Black Hat SEO the following can be seen as common practises

Link Farms This is a method where many sites link to each other to mutually up their incoming links. It can be detected since there is a very high number of mutual links and they are generally out of context.

Obvious Link Buying (or selling) certain sites sell links on their pages knowing the value of them. In general, buying a link is not likely to harm your site but you may be wasting your money. Search engines try to spot the sites selling links and downgrade or ignore the links coming from the site.

Hidden text Hiding text in a web page is always a bad thing. Older techniques of putting the text as the same colors as the background or using css to hide it are easily spotted and pointless. If you have text on a page, make sure that it can be seen. The only exceptions to this are navigation buttons which require javascript or css and the content may be used as a backup (for browsers that cannot use javascript for example). In these cases, the text that cannot be seen should be relevant and not deceiving.

Spamming Spam in this context is over stuffing your pages with text that does not read well. If a page has text stuffed in that is there for the sole purpose of keyword stuffing then it is spam. It is much better to write proper text for humans that contain the keywords that you want to be on the page.

Cloaking This is a technique where software delivers a different page to the spiders as it does for the humans to fool the spider into thinking that the page is about something else. Sometimes there may be a genuine reason to do this (formatting for different platforms etc.) but in this case the content should be pretty similar.

 

[zippy]

I think you will find what you are doing breaks several of Google's terms and conditions. Good luck to you, but you sound dodgy and what you are doing is super dodgy, and even worse when it blows up in your and your client's face, it's going to give professionals who work in the web industry a bad name.

Unfortunately it already has got a bad name. This is why it's very easy to start this type of business, but a hard slog in making a success of it, because people have to get past the damage done by shady operators.

 

[Raevinn]

Ah, so I'm guessing providing SEO services to them once I've sold a site to them is blackhat and against Google's TOS. Hmmmm, go tell seomoz that they are a bunch of blackhatters then.

You should have a look at this: http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35769

SEO is not purely blackhat, it can also be whitehat. And your little guide on what blackhat is reminds me of the 90s for some reason. Hidden text? Lol.

And on another note, I did not say I guarantee any sort of ranking. That would be dumb since Google is always changing up its algo. But I can maintain their link building velocity as well as adding new content to the site which should keep the site's ranking where it is if done properly.

 

[frikkie6000]

Ah, so I'm guessing providing SEO services to them once I've sold a site to them is blackhat and against Google's TOS. Hmmmm, go tell seomoz that they are a bunch of blackhatters then.

You should have a look at this: http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35769

SEO is not purely blackhat, it can also be whitehat. And your little guide on what blackhat is reminds me of the 90s for some reason. Hidden text? Lol.

And on another note, I did not say I guarantee any sort of ranking. That would be dumb since Google is always changing up its algo. But I can maintain their link building velocity as well as adding new content to the site which should keep the site's ranking where it is if done properly.

Your "link building" reminds me of the time before tv's so sad ....

you still exchanging links as well I am sure

A post on my bb about 3 weeks ago about hidden text found on web pages perhaps you should stop spamming your sites and go read up a bit these practises are still being used just like clowns selling SEO who "build" links and optimize your meta tags so sad :wtf: everyone is a web developer and seo specialist now

 

[Raevinn]

Cut me deep there...

 

[GoodGuyProjects.co.za]

Few things you need to consider for your next sales pitch.

1. Most guys will wnat to buy a website because its gonna make them money. So how much money are you making with the site? (You can can sell if for a years worth of income or more)
2. How much work are you putting into the site? If its a blog, how often are you adding post e.t.c. Unfortunately finding buyers for blogs is very hard, you need to find someone who just doesnt want an extra income but is willing to work for it(not point 1 people = me included).
3. Who are your competitors? Take over and destroy strategy 101, most intenet based businesses people/ marketers will be willing to pay huge bucks for your domain name or website, If they veiw it as threat or opportunity. Be in the look out for these people, set up a Who Is Guard on your domain then checkout whos been looking up your details and maybe contact them.


I personally prefer Option 1, its much easier than the others.


GoodGuyProjects.co.za

 

[Raevinn]

Thanks for a solid post goodguy.

My websites do not make money on their own, but can be valuable to business owners that need more leads to build their own revenue.

 

[Yepp]

How many members do you have in your website?