Need help with Network

[FlexSA]

If the gateway (Huawei) IP address is different just use the same process. but ensure everything is on that subnet rather than the 192.168.1.x I mentioned.

Edit: Also if you're connected to the LAN directly to the Huawei router. You said you can't see the gateway via ipconfig /all...

That doesn't make sense unless your network adapter settings are set badly. Which shouldn't even allow you to connect to the WAN (internet in this case) at all. If you reconfigure it just make sure you have the old settings saved like in a snapshot or something. I don't want to bust up your internet completely. lol

This is a screenie I took làst night quickly. Net was working 100% but could not see routers ip at all as you can see

 

[PBCool]

This is a screenie I took làst night quickly. Net was working 100% but could not see routers ip at all as you can see

Did you dial the PPPoE from your PC? Get the model number of the router and take it from there, if there is no WAN port you need another router if you want multiple devices to be connected to your internal wireless.

 

[Rocket-Boy]

That looks a lot like your pc is initiating a PPPoE connection to the router device, kinda similar to what dial-up was.
Do you have to start the connection on your pc when you want to get on the internet?
If so then you need to go back a few steps and connect the TP-link to the Hauwei router and put those same PPPoE details into the TP-link, then enable DHCP on it and connect your pc to the TP-link and your wifi devices to it too.

 

[FlexSA]

That looks a lot like your pc is initiating a PPPoE connection to the router device, kinda similar to what dial-up was.
Do you have to start the connection on your pc when you want to get on the internet?
If so then you need to go back a few steps and connect the TP-link to the Hauwei router and put those same PPPoE details into the TP-link, then enable DHCP on it and connect your pc to the TP-link and your wifi devices to it too.

That is correct yes. The PC is initiating the PPPoE
But will the DHCP of the TP link not clash with that of the Huawei?

 

[FlexSA]

Did you dial the PPPoE from your PC? Get the model number of the router and take it from there, if there is no WAN port you need another router if you want multiple devices to be connected to your internal wireless.

From my PC yes. There is def a WAN port. as the internet is working. Just need to get the wireless working.
I think what @Rocket-Boy is saying might be the case

 

[Moosedrool]

That is correct yes. The PC is initiating the PPPoE
But will the DHCP of the TP link not clash with that of the Huawei?

No I thought the Huawei had the pppoe settings configured and connects on its own. You can set up the tp-link to connect but I personally don't see the reason for ISP's to set up stuff like this.

So try and enable dhcp and your pppoe on the WAN settings in the TP-link router and connect through that device.

 

[PBCool]

No I thought the Huawei had the pppoe settings configured and connects on its own. You can set up the tp-link to connect but I personally don't see the reason for ISP's to set up stuff like this.

So try and enable dhcp and your pppoe on the WAN settings in the TP-link router and connect through that device.

This is how all Openserve setups are, the ONT is transparent and your router dials your PPPoE same as before just via an Ethernet interface.

The reason your internet was working last night is because your "router/AP" was acting as a switch and your PC was dialing the connection.

 

[FlexSA]

Once I am home I will let you all know what is cutting. Thanks for all the feedback and assistance thus far!

 

[FlexSA]

This is how all Openserve setups are, the ONT is transparent and your router dials your PPPoE same as before just via an Ethernet interface.

The reason your internet was working last night is because your "router/AP" was acting as a switch and your PC was dialing the connection.

Makes sense. So instead of having my PC dial, I must have the TP Link dial. That is why the wi fi also was not working? Because the Tp Link did not have the pppoe to source to the wireless devices, but they were still on the network ? Is that correct?

 

[PBCool]

Makes sense. So instead of having my PC dial, I must have the TP Link dial. That is why the wi fi also was not working? Because the Tp Link did not have the pppoe to source to the wireless devices, but they were still on the network ? Is that correct?

Yeap have said that 3 times now .

 

[Moosedrool]

This is how all Openserve setups are, the ONT is transparent and your router dials your PPPoE same as before just via an Ethernet interface.

The reason your internet was working last night is because your "router/AP" was acting as a switch and your PC was dialing the connection.

It's still dumb because they don't give you another gateway and don't assist customers with linking other devices.

Like this you don't have a router DMZ surrounded by firewalls and you don't have anything assigning IPs to other units. At least FlexSA is geared for the setup he wants but if I request an ISP no tech is touching my pc, servers and phones.

 

[FlexSA]

It's still dumb because they don't give you another gateway and don't assist customers with linking other devices.

Like this you don't have a router DMZ surrounded by firewalls and you don't have anything assigning IPs to other units. At least FlexSA is geared for the setup he wants but if I request an ISP no tech is touching my pc, servers and phones.

Agreed! I am not a networking fundi at all. but at least have some basics and can give enough enough to trouble shoot. For a total noob this will be a nightmare!

 

[PBCool]

It's still dumb because they don't give you another gateway and don't assist customers with linking other devices.

Like this you don't have a router DMZ surrounded by firewalls and you don't have anything assigning IPs to other units. At least FlexSA is geared for the setup he wants but if I request an ISP no tech is touching my pc, servers and phones.

I don't follow? The huawei is just an endpoint for the fibre, your access layer is exactly the same as ADSL? This is how Telkom has been for years. You can work around it with a tunnel and IP routing then get everything else you need.

 

[Moosedrool]

I don't follow? The huawei is just an endpoint for the fibre, your access layer is exactly the same as ADSL? This is how Telkom has been for years. You can work around it with a tunnel and IP routing then get everything else you need.

The GPON terminal should have wan settings inside....



If he has to use a separate dialer such as a pc or additional gateway it's not configured correctly inside the Huawei device.

Unless for some reason this particular one (GH8240H) doesn't have the settings which I highly doubt.

 

[PBCool]

The GPON terminal should have wan settings inside....

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If he has to use a separate dialer such as a pc or additional gateway it's not configured correctly inside the Huawei device.

Unless for some reason this particular one (GH8240H) doesn't have the settings which I highly doubt.

That's correct, but Telkom also need to manage the device and not allow to make changes to their config, this is why it is locked down to the particular network.

 

[Moosedrool]

That's correct, but Telkom also need to manage the device and not allow to make changes to their config, this is why it is locked down to the particular network.

But why don't they configure it then? Why does a tech come out and add a connection to his pc when the GPON is meant to store the WAN settings?

I know this happens in some cases when your terminal is under rental where the ISP is afraid of incompetence but if they want to lock down your router they should at least set the point to point settings instead of letting a tech have to come out each time a customer messes up his/her connection on the local PC.

 

[PBCool]

But why don't they configure it then? Why does a tech come out and add a connection to his pc when the GPON is meant to store the WAN settings?

I know this happens in some cases when your terminal is under rental where the ISP is afraid of incompetence but if they want to lock down your router they should at least set the point to point settings instead of letting a tech have to come out each time a customer messes up his/her connection on the local PC.

Either way they would lock down the device? Their internal policies are based on their company choices. Either way they would end up locking it down. Often there are a lot of reasons the large companies do these things.

 

[FlexSA]

So 2 x DHCP enabled devices and the Pc initiating the PPPoE were the issues.
Thanks for all the assistance everyone!!!