Net neutrality

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/101462-net-neutrality-a-bad-bad-idea-isp-ceo.html

I'm sorry Crystal Web, but I can't support you as I will be indirectly supporting this idiot.

Cybersmart can go **** themselves.

It largely depends at how you look at the scenario described by Laurie Fialkov.

Say entity A have a high market penetration globally, territory regulations and licensing prevents them to push more capacity outside their hosted environments. One territory includes SA, but due to certain limitations (which the consumer have very little detail on) prevents them to push, thus they need to expand within this territory namely SA.

Now entity A approach SA entities B, C and D, where B and C are signed partners, D is an alternative. B and D provides a positive answer, C withdraws due to their own limitations. Now a race between B and D begins… however, A knows clearly about the existing limitations, thus ask B and D to do the initial investment until SA is ready to be penetrated by a proper implementation made by A themselves. B withdraws in order not to risk a possible contract breach already in place due to certain calculations made. C wants to go ahead, here is where the terms change, this is why the consumer ask so many questions, especially why A is not here already.

Laurie is protecting his space, that's it.
 
It largely depends at how you look at the scenario described by Laurie Fialkov.

Say entity A have a high market penetration globally, territory regulations and licensing prevents them to push more capacity outside their hosted environments. One territory includes SA, but due to certain limitations (which the consumer have very little detail on) prevents them to push, thus they need to expand within this territory namely SA.

Now entity A approach SA entities B, C and D, where B and C are signed partners, D is an alternative. B and D provides a positive answer, C withdraws due to their own limitations. Now a race between B and D begins… however, A knows clearly about the existing limitations, thus ask B and D to do the initial investment until SA is ready to be penetrated by a proper implementation made by A themselves. B withdraws in order not to risk a possible contract breach already in place due to certain calculations made. C wants to go ahead, here is where the terms change, this is why the consumer ask so many questions, especially why A is not here already.

Laurie is protecting his space, that's it.

You're wholly uneducated on the topic of net neutrality. there are plenty of youtube videos on the topic if you're interested in learning and don't like reading.
 
You're wholly uneducated on the topic of net neutrality. there are plenty of youtube videos on the topic if you're interested in learning and don't like reading.

Then since you are so wholly educated on this topic, why don't you explain what Laurie said in your provided link or perhaps try to enlighten me on his meaning?
 
Then since you are so wholly educated on this topic, why don't you explain what Laurie said in your provided link or perhaps try to enlighten me on his meaning?

Great explanation:

[video=youtube_share;NAxMyTwmu_M]http://youtu.be/NAxMyTwmu_M[/video]
 
mod_note : moved arguments regarding net neutrality out of crystalweb's thread into its own thread.

I also agree, but Laurie have a strong case in his own regard with his side he provided. There is absolute no reason not to support Crystal Web in this case.

In reality, Net Neutrality will even mean to null security layers, but anyway. Apparently I'm not educated on this topic.
 
I also agree, but Laurie have a strong case in his own regard with his side he provided. There is absolute no reason not to support Crystal Web in this case.

In reality, Net Neutrality will even mean to null security layers, but anyway. Apparently I'm not educated on this topic.

Please. Just this part is bull****:

Fialkov explained that it makes no commercial sense for ISPs to invest in network infrastructure, and then have that additional capacity saturated by a content provider like Netflix.

Netflix, therefore, would benefit and profit from the ISP’s investment, but there is no commercial benefit to the ISP.

of course there is commercial benefit to the ISP. The ISPs clients get better service levels so they get more customers or can charge more.

What an utter moron.
 
Please. Just this part is bull****:



of course there is commercial benefit to the ISP. The ISPs clients get better service levels so they get more customers or can charge more.

What an utter moron.

You mean that the clients will receive better service levels in regard with a third-party provider who did not invest in the network.

Content distribution is a massive business today, yet how many CDN providers deployed within their very own capacity in SA and what do you think is the ROI to enable a third-party to utilise your network on which a CDN provider is already trying its best to obtain service levels?

The commercial gain will only be enabled when the third-party content provider paid to utilise the network, otherwise the ISP have to carry the upkeep on that segment being utilised.
 
Net neutrality favors the wealthy companies, this was not the spirit in which the concept of the Internet was created !
 
Net neutrality favors the wealthy companies, this was not the spirit in which the concept of the Internet was created !

Nobody is against Net Neutrality, however someone must make the capacity available and this are where things turn into a problematic scenario.

Do note, not every ISP is tier 1. Then you have Google backing Net Neutrality only on their Google Fibre network, yet it prohibit any commercial servers on their network, except within their own data centres interconnected with Google Fibre. It is also to note that Google and Akamai have a more in-depth relationship when it comes to CDN. Then we have NetFlix who is deeply contracted with Akamai.

Then we have this article: http://www.zdnet.com/google-backs-net-neutrality-on-its-own-google-fibre-network-7000029786/

They are right it is a win-win-win scenario in their own regard. It is Google’s own network with their own capacity with their own Net Neutrality in 3 locations (Kansas City, Austin and Provo). Then only non-commercial servers are allowed, strictly abiding to their AUP.

Net Neutrality will be awesome, should companies agree to do it together to a certain degree. Google is also not the Net Neutrality hero taking the above in regard, they have relationships with those entities which are non-disclosed.

My only concern is the security and importantly who’s responsibility.
 
[video=youtube;k-xSP_T0VqU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xSP_T0VqU[/video]
 
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