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Puffy_Nipples

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Howzit. Hope you having a great day.

I just wanted to ask some advice with Network related Setup im currently planning to setup.

So my questions will follow after i explain what im planning on purchasing.

Router- Edge router X
Switch - Dlink DSG 1024D (Getting it for R500) Around 10 Ports is used so far that i can count off the top of my head.
Patch panel
Access Points-2 Ubiquity Ap Ac Lites.
They will all be connected via Cat 5e cabling, Mix of outdoor for cable runs to the roof and normal cat5e in the house pipes.
Indoor cat5e- Linkbasic 305M Box Cat5e Solid UTP Cable

Questions
Is this even correct? Am i missing anything?
What standard should i use for RJ45 ports A or B? Not sure which standard ZA uses.
Is the cable Good enough for a home gigerbit setup or is there better quality cables available?

This setup is on a budget but can save up more if need be to purchase better quality Cables.


Your help will be much appreciated
Kind Regards
PN

*PS Mods if in wrong category please change to correct one. Thank you
 
Rather use cat6 cabling and get a cat6 patch panel as well. We normally use B-standard (white/orange).

Do not run exposed cables over the roof, use pvc conduit.
 
Captain Morgan said:
Since the cat5e is no longer considered as standard and an old technology?

No use installing a new network, and related goodies, and use dated cabling technology. Rather do it once and properly the first time.

For more info:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cat5e+vs+cat6
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Yes and no.

There's a lot of info on the net re. this.

Copper with plastic around it is not really something the becomes useless, just because it is "dated technology".

In a home user environment, Cat6 hardly warrants the extra cost involved.
 
MightyQuin said:
Yes and no.

There's a lot of info on the net re. this.

Copper with plastic around it is not really something the becomes useless, just because it is "dated technology".

In a home user environment, Cat6 hardly warrants the extra cost involved.
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Cat6 operates at a higher frequency for starters. This ensures better stability at higher speeds. Also keep in mind that cat5e are limited to 1Gbps whereas cat6 are capable of 10Gbps speeds, so upgrading in future is as simple as replacing the switch.

The price difference between the two cable types are so little, it is better to use cat6 when installing a new network.

Cat6 cable are more durable as well, compared to cat5e.
 
Captain Morgan said:
Cat6 operates at a higher frequency for starters. This ensures better stability at higher speeds. Also keep in mind that cat5e are limited to 1Gbps whereas cat6 are capable of 10Gbps speeds, so upgrading in future is as simple as replacing the switch.

The price difference between the two cable types are so little, it is better to use cat6 when installing a new network.

Cat6 cable are more durable as well, compared to cat5e.
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Check with OP if he has a 10Gb switch or wants to use high-end POE devices...if not, Cat5e still does the job.
 
At OP we use B standard as well.

As for CAT5e vs 6, I do agree that if I'm about to build a new house I'll use cat6, but there's nothing wrong with CAT5e and I don't forsee our ISPs offering anything near Gigabit let alone 10Gbps so no need for cat6 in the home in the foreseeable future.
 
Firstly thanks alot for your input highly appreciated. This why I posted it to have a discussion on what the right choice is for my setup.

Goobie said:
What do you mean with "in the house pipes"?
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Apologies for lack of clarity. When we built our house a few years back my dad never anticipated me wanting to install a network. So there are only a few ports(3 to be exact all downstairs) of phone cables running in the house. This existing piping will be used to install Ethernet downstairs as well as providing an extra ports by running cables in the same pipe no pipe will exceed 3 cables.
Captain Morgan said:
Cat6 operates at a higher frequency for starters. This ensures better stability at higher speeds. Also keep in mind that cat5e are limited to 1Gbps whereas cat6 are capable of 10Gbps speeds, so upgrading in future is as simple as replacing the switch.

The price difference between the two cable types are so little, it is better to use cat6 when installing a new network.

Cat6 cable are more durable as well, compared to cat5e.
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I fully understand the advantages of installing Cat6 cabling but the cost and use case don't warrant it. I only hope to allow devices in my house to be able to communicate freely and provide enough bandwidth for stream from my home server. Yes 10gb will be fn amazing but I don't see a need. And don't forsee one in the near future. On the durability point all cables will have no direct contact with the out doors. As well as the ones running outside will be covered up by pvc pipe and will use outdoor cable for extra protection As you mentioned.

True what @Thor said we only now getting Fibre and am only looking at a 10/5 connection. So 1gbt speed seems to me more than enough.
 
It's like R1 a meter more for CAT6 cable? So unless you're doing a 1000 meters of cable a couple extra rands shouldn't hurt?
 
Lupus said:
It's like R1 a meter more for CAT6 cable? So unless you're doing a 1000 meters of cable a couple extra rands shouldn't hurt?
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Where would i buy per meter cabling. All i can find is Boxes with like 305m or 500m Boxes of these cables?
 
Puffy_Nipples said:
Where would i buy per meter cabling. All i can find is Boxes with like 305m or 500m Boxes of these cables?
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If you're in Johannesburg you can get 100meters from Cable Applications for R500 which is R5 a meter, then you just need your jacks and such. If they've got offcuts you can purchase that from them as well.
 
Lupus said:
https://www.cables.co.za/utp-cat6-cable.html
498 for 100meters.

https://www.cables.co.za/utp-cat5e-cable.html
R378 for 100m

Okay so it's now R1.20 more a meter. Though I've had issues sometimes with cat 5e getting 1gig over 10m but cat6 no issues.
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It obviously depends on what brand and quality you buy.

At Scoop for instance there is much cheaper versions of both cable.

My comments were based on @Captain Morgan posting:
Captain Morgan said:
is no longer considered as standard and an old technology
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This is not the case, otherwise why is it still prolifically available and sold by cable companies?
 
@Lupus yeah Cable application is in Jhb I'm in CT so seems scoop is best option.

I have read up on different type of cables and how companies cut corners when manufacturing cables to keep the price low. In scoops own cables use a Cca manufacturing method which offers poor performance where as link basic uses solid utp solid copper cables which is better and have less data loss and only starts falling off at around 100 feet
 
Puffy_Nipples said:
@Lupus yeah Cable application is in Jhb I'm in CT so seems scoop is best option.

I have read up on different type of cables and how companies cut corners when manufacturing cables to keep the price low. In scoops own cables use a Cca manufacturing method which offers poor performance where as link basic uses solid utp solid copper cables which is better and have less data loss and only starts falling off at around 100 feet
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100f is 30m so just be aware of that.
 
Lupus said:
100f is 30m so just be aware of that.
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Yes I will.
@Thor, @MightyQuin @Lupus @Captain Morgan Thnx alot for your input and Views have decided to rather stick with Cat5e as it is enough for my use case for the next 5 to 6 years. Scoop is the shop I'll be buying bulk of the equipment as they have most of the things I need and are in CT. Cables outside will be covered by PVC pipe as @Captain Morgan said and B Standard is what I will be using for RJ45 ports.

If you have any other tips please go ahead and leave a comment.
 
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