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I noticed the new Honda Jazz Hybrid and Prius uses more fuel than the 1.6 Polo TDi!
The C02 emmissions are similar.

Do you think these Hybrid cars are just ploy?
 
Not really. The cars are designed for different uses. Hybrids shine when it comes to rush hour and urban traffic, whilst a diesel is way more efficient than a hybrid on the highway. All things considered, I still prefer a diesel.
 
I noticed the new Honda Jazz Hybrid and Prius uses more fuel than the 1.6 Polo TDi!
The C02 emmissions are similar.

Do you think these Hybrid cars are just ploy?

Honda doesn't seem to have as efficient hybrid tech as Toyota does. Bear in mind though re. the Prius that it's a much bigger car than a Polo, so its consumption is very impressive all things considered. Also, in terms of long-term reliability my money's on a hybrid over a turbodiesel.
 
The Honda has been disappointing since it first appeared as the Prius apparently gives it carrots. But as dj said, the Hybrids really come into their own with continuous heavy traffic. They would make Taxis in a country where you don't have to cram 32 people into 16 seats ;0
 
Not really. The cars are designed for different uses. Hybrids shine when it comes to rush hour and urban traffic, whilst a diesel is way more efficient than a hybrid on the highway. All things considered, I still prefer a diesel.

These were urban cycle figures, stop and go traffic.
As far as I know the Polo is not marketed as a 'green' car while the other 2 are.
How does that work? The Polo is also much cheaper than both.
Not even sure what's the Bluemotions figures, but its sure to beat all 3.

In the same mag they review Lexus new hybrids.
The LS600 has a V8+electric motor 9.3l/100km C02 of 219g!!!!
Does the hybrid badge mean anything or is it just marketing?

#confused
 
These were urban cycle figures, stop and go traffic.
As far as I know the Polo is not marketed as a 'green' car while the other 2 are.
How does that work? The Polo is also much cheaper than both.
Not even sure what's the Bluemotions figures, but its sure to beat all 3.

In the same mag they review Lexus new hybrids.
The LS600 has a V8+electric motor 9.3l/100km C02 of 219g!!!!
Does the hybrid badge mean anything or is it just marketing?

#confused

9.3l/100km is very good for a car that big and powerful.
 
We went through to Kruger in a Porsche Cayenne Hybrid and for 25% of the journey ran on battery only with an overall consumption of about 10l/100km ... quite decent for a large, heavy and fairly powerful car.
 
We went through to Kruger in a Porsche Cayenne Hybrid and for 25% of the journey ran on battery only with an overall consumption of about 10l/100km ... quite decent for a large, heavy and fairly powerful car.

Car mag says the Cayenne Hybrid and the diesel both have the same consumption, 9.8 - both 3.0 V6
 
Car mag says the Cayenne Hybrid and the diesel both have the same consumption, 9.8 - both 3.0 V6

They're totally different engines - Hybrid is far more powerful (60kw at the engine) and the car is 200KG heavier :/

Difficult to compare the consumption, because of the different types of driving? Traffic driving the engine hardly runs and 8l/100km isn't bad for a 2.3 tons car with 245KW. I'd wager that the Hybrid would get a lower consumption over most types. That said, we've never had a diesel Cayenne
 
Nothing comes close to Bluemotion - even ZEVs like the Nissan Leaf, Peugeot iOn cannot compete with the cost of owning and running a car like the Golf Bluemotion. Check out Sunday's episode of Top Gear if you want proof of that.

So no, Hybrids cannot beat the Bluemotion - the only real alternative right now is... another diesel like the Ecoflex (1.3 CDTI / 70 kW / 3,6l/100km / 95g/km CO2) :)
 
Nothing comes close to Bluemotion - even ZEVs like the Nissan Leaf, Peugeot iOn cannot compete with the cost of owning and running a car like the Golf Bluemotion. Check out Sunday's episode of Top Gear if you want proof of that.

So no, Hybrids cannot beat the Bluemotion - the only real alternative right now is... another diesel like the Ecoflex (1.3 CDTI / 70 kW / 3,6l/100km / 95g/km CO2) :)

Not sure I agree with you on this. An EV will have much lower running costs than even a Bluemotion. Maintenance costs are VERY minimal, and fuelling costs are much lower too. Yes, the initial outlay is higher, but in terms of running costs, an EV is definitely tops.
 
It does have some redeeming qualities about it, but have a look at Sunday's Top Gear and see what I mean.
 
A while back fifth gear had similar conclusions with a Mitsubishi i-miev. Bottom line is the technology is not yet mature enough to offer a total package and driving experience that is more economical than say a Bluemotion or Ecoflex car.
 
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