New MTN EDGE Pricing

But the world IS flat...and at the center of the universe with the sun orbiting around us, did you not know?

The various offerings from each network targets different user groups but with a fair amount of overlap.

Broadband can be grouped as follows:

1- Static - Where you always stay in one place. ADSL, for example.

2- Nomadic - Where you can move your connection from place to place. Sentech, for example.

3- Mobile - Where you can stay connected while on the move. MTN, Vodacom, for example.

If you don't have a need for mobility, it does not make sense to go for a system that carries a premium for such capability. Then you'll be better of with ADSL or even iBurst or myWireless.

If you need mobility, with better coverage, the cellular solutions are the best, even at a price penalty.
 
Neo - I like your definition of nomadic. :D And I believe you are quite accurate in you accessment of the situation. I see myself as being somewhere between a nomad and a mobile user.

However I doubt if the wireless ISP's like Sentech and iBurst would agree with you. They tend to think, and imply so in their marketing blurb, that they are just as mobile as the Vodacom and MNT cell systems. But of course they aren't. Sentech's Mywireless is so very far from mobile, it disconnects you if you move from one tower range to another. iBurst is much better, and you get handed over from one tower to another, but it suffers from not enough coverage, so you can also get disconnected quite easily.

Strangely enough, I am in a situation where I have access to both Sentech and iBurst as well as Vodacom 3G (I haven't looked at MTN but I might be there as well), but not ADSL. So overall coverage is not an issue for me. I use the internet for serious business use (not downloading porn or illegal movies) and I need a combination of good speed and a data usage of between 3GB and 10 GB per month, and some mobility as well. (So ADSL is out in any case).

So now I have to look for a service provider to give me this service. And of course there isn't one. I can assure you I would take MTN (I have been a subscriber since the country got cellphones and more years than I care to remember), in a heartbeat if I could, but their pricing for internet data usage of above 1G is just plain crazy. And the speed isn't really something to get overly exited about.

So now I'm stuck with Sentech, that I use for slow but large volume of data (20GB per month for R850), and iBurst for high speed transfer of 1Gb/s. As you probably know neither of these two companies have any clue what customer service or indeed technical competence means, in actual fact, there really should be a law against such companies existing.

So this is why I ask the question, why is there such a large price discrepancy for a wireless internet service between the wireless companies and the cellphone companies, because they are really after the same market. And there also isn't all that much difference in the technologies (iBurst is a dervative of 3G and MyWi is 2.5G). Or perhaps they are only after the very low end of the market (that uses broadband for a little surfing and some email - and to connect their 3G/Edge phones to the internet and send some low res photos to their friends). I believe that to be a very shortsighted approach, because broadband implies applications (e.g. video on demand), that needs high speed and large data usage. When real 3G applications start to hit the market, even the 1GB phone users will find out very soon that this is not even nearly enough.

I accept that a price penalty has to be paid for a better and more mobile system, but a price difference of multiple orders of magnitude is obviously excessive. On the other hand this price penalty only exists for data usage above 1GB. If there is such a price penalty, why not also for data usage below 1GB. All ISP's have to buy their international data from our favourite monopoly, Telkom, so why is the data costs for Vodacom and MNT 10 times more expensive than for the wireless ISP's for higher data volumes. Sorry but this doesn't compute.

Oh, and the flat earth thing, I really don't have any proof right now to say you are right or wrong, but I'll keep an open mind on the subject for now. :p
 
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CyberMatix said:
...iBurst is a dervative of 3G and MyWi is 2.5G):p
You have it wrong:
MyWi is using the 3G based (3GPP UMTS UTRA UMTS TDD) standard.
iBurst uses their own technology that has long passed it's "sell by date"!
 
OK, I stand corrected. I assume this means my argument is wrong as well?
 
No ..... Not at all :)
The cellular industry is into per packet/second billing....
something more aimed at the business market, rather than the home broadband market if you ask me.
I use the more economical MyWireless at home, and EDGE to communicate with the office.
I'm quite happy with both solutions, as each has it's strengths:
MyWi - Uncapped and stable.
EDGE - Mobile & in all the major areas of SA (and overseas)
 
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Mmmm - what you say makes good sense. Maybe that should be my solution as well.

I already use two services, so why not a third? Edge and later full 3G for mobile. I now just need a seamless solution to switch between the three on a laptop.

maybe I'm too impatient. In later years I can see that these 3 services could be done by one ISP.
 
Im LOst

Hi, I am terribley lost between all these price bundles.
I was on a mycall 100 package, and have just upgraded few days ago to the Business Time contract and received my Nokia 9300 free, yay! But I dont know how the data pricing will wok for me. I havent subscribed to any data services, but I am able to browse the web etc using gprs (which i assume will use edge when in the correct location) What will this cost me / MB ?? Is it R25/mb or R2/mb ???

Thanks
 
Correct. In my case I use my Dual SIM card for ad-hoc EDGE data use... and this works well for me.
 
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