New Rig....Your input would help...

While we're on the subject of V-Sync... How is the V-Sync thing that comes with Lucid Virtu MVP?
 
dudewotevr said:
TheGoosen said:
I would suggest a Gigabyte GTX 670 OC (wind-force edition). Got one myself and as Avid-Dreamer said, performance is no issue with any games out in the wild at this moment, probably wont be for the next year or 2 but when you do feel the need just add another 670 and BOOM. 660 is a good card but upgrade options are limited if you do SLI straight away.
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I second the Gigabyte GTX 670 OC, mine came stock 1098(boost to 1200)/1652, whisper quiet, max 66deg with the heater right next to it, max fan was 41%.
Do it! It chews threw games with reckless abandon.
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I also just got this. Amazing card, surprisingly cool. Even though the space between its fans and my sound card is like under 10mm
 
Pada said:
While we're on the subject of V-Sync... How is the V-Sync thing that comes with Lucid Virtu MVP?
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its worthless buddy if you have nvidia adaptive vsync u dont need lucid vsync. most ppl have abandoned that lucid technology it was a huge flop
 
So @ avid and @ pada,can i have your input for HHD storage if I must not take WD green drive?
And will 90GB SSD be suffecient for boot drive when I go for 4 series SSD?
 
NAG - Wesley said:
I'm sorry Duff, but I've been holding my tongue on this one as well, I don't see the sense in recommending SLI to someone who'll never see the benefits.


Adaptive V-Sync is a good idea, but remember we've been running V-Sync on our monitors for years and haven't had much in the way of problems. I've yet to see it properly demonstrated to be working in ANY review I've read on Nvidia's Kepler-based products that use it, so forgive me for being a bit skeptical about it actually being a feature worth bandying about.
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I apologise for that bit of arrogance i get abit too passionate about stuff sometimes. On the topic of that adaptive vsync.... you see with normal vsync as long as the card is pushing over that 60fps threshold for the monitor the, the framerate is capped at 60 fps right? So what happens when the card drops down below that 60 fps? it halves the framerate to 30fps thats just how vsync works, so i did a little test during the 24 hours in which my gtx670 actually worked:sick: (its in RMA now) I used normal vsync on BF3 and it stayed at 60fps constantly ....until some intense bits where i did see the drop straight down to 30fps however when i used adaptive vsync was still constantly capped at 60fps but dropd down only to a minimum of like 50fps. Basically Nvidias adaptive vsync turns vsync on and off in realtime so your card wants to hit a 100fps it says wait hold on i have to cap myself at 60fps for the monitor. soon as that 60fps drops it says ok now the monitor can handle me so ill switch vsync off so i dont halve the fps to 30:D
 
kelevra said:
So @ avid and @ pada,can i have your input for HHD storage if I must not take WD green drive?
And will 90GB SSD be suffecient for boot drive when I go for 4 series SSD?
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normally to be safe, it is suggested you go for a 120gb ssd , a 4 series is not that expensive the price difference between an agility 3 and 4 is only bout +- 100 bucks personally, i have an agility 4 on paper it is not that fast but trust me it doesnt even give windows a chance to display the logo it just boots strate in bout 15 seconds from the time i press my power button im in windows and ready to go. Transfer speeds are pretty damn good as well. As for a storage drive heres the deal: green series drive can alternate from 5900 rpm to 7200 rpm but most of the time it operates at 5900rpm that could make quite a difference in load times if you stored some games on the hdd go for a seagate barracuda 7200rpm with a 64mb cache and sata6gbps connectivity or anything with that spec.
 
90GB should suffice for Windows & Office, but its going to be too small if you're going to install new games on it like I do.
SSD's aren't event that expensive any more! The 128GB ones now costs less than what my OCZ 30GB SSD cost me 2 years ago, which was R1400 back then - imported via have2have, which was already considerable cheaper than the local retail stores!

I'm not sure if the WD Green Drives can be trusted, but they should be fine if you don't switch your PC on and off the whole time. I bought 4x Seagate 2TB low power drives about a year ago and my HP Microserver is still running strong, but it is on 24/7 and on a UPS.
Just take note that you'll be taking a risk by buying a low power drive that has just a 1 year warranty. If you do this, make sure that you backup your important data to an external drive/host.
 
Avid-dreamer:
My Windows actually takes a while to start up, but it could be because my OCZ Agility 4 128GB is running on a SATA II port and I didn't reinstall my Windows when I got it. I simply copied (yes copied my files over using Windows explorer) from my HDD to my SSD :D
OR it is just because I have way too many applications installed.

6Gbps on a HDD is useless, because HDD's can't even saturate SATA II at 3Gbps!
 
Pada said:
Avid-dreamer:
My Windows actually takes a while to start up, but it could be because my OCZ Agility 4 128GB is running on a SATA II port and I didn't reinstall my Windows when I got it. I simply copied (yes copied my files over using Windows explorer) from my HDD to my SSD :D
OR it is just because I have way too many applications installed.

6Gbps on a HDD is useless, because HDD's can't even saturate SATA II at 3Gbps!
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I think 6gbps on a hdd helps with IOPS but im not sure, as for your ssd I'm sure you checked that AHCI mode and trim are on right? Damn pada u r really hardcore!!! using explorer to mirror a drive now thats skill.:D
 
avid-dreamer said:
How can u advise kelevra to go with 2 x gtx 660ti and then tell him he can later add a third card when the mobo u suggested doesnt even have the ability to run 3 way sli also none of the boards in a decent price range offer proper 3 way sli which would also require more power in the future if he had to go 3 way sli, also in 3 way sli ur bandwith is heavily split in most cases probly will barely match the performance of a 690 whereas two 670 in sli comes quite close to 690 . Three way sli is not so simple as slapping 3 cards in an magically hoping u end up with monster graphics quality, most current 3 way sli boards will run at 16x8x4x higher end and quite expensive boards can run at 16x8x8x keep in mind the fact that you r suggesting 660ti's doesnt help the fact that which ever way u look at it u still gona have a memory bus thats only a 192bit effective im so sorry to say this dude but do ur homework duffy and just as a parting shot..... U dont ever suggest western digital caviar green for a gaming rig, we wana play games on our gaming rigs not save the world with an eco friendly hard drive
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Firstly, It should be noted that I recommended a HD7950 Crossfire above a GTX 660 Ti SLI after Rebel Tech dropped the price of their MSI HD7950 to R3558, which if overclocked would match or beat a GTX 670 SLI and with updated drivers would perform even better.

The major upgrade to the build that I mentioned would be to the screen, with 2560x1440 monitors dropping rapidly in price, with some retailing at around $400 overseas brand new kelevra could possibly upgrade to a 1440P monitor, this however would need the extra GPU power and thus would explain the need for the HD7950 Crossfire. Had kelevra gone with a single GTX 670 he would need to first add in another GTX 670 and then would need to upgrade his monitor needing to use more funds to upgrade his rig.

By early 2015 1440P monitors will most likely be the "de facto" standard (what 1080P monitors are today) and 4K resolution monitors (Ultra HD - 4096 x 2160) would be what 1440P monitors are today. Current graphics cards most likely will not be able to perform competitively on Ultra HD monitors.

Secondly, I was merely stating the fact that a GTX 660 Ti has the capability to be put in 3-way SLI, I didn't state its compatibility with the mentioned build. By the time that one would need a GTX 660 Ti in 3-way SLI which I'm guessing would be around late 2014/early 2015 around the time that NVIDIA will release their Maxwell architecture, kelevra could easily upgrade to a single Maxwell graphics card that would offer better performance than a GTX 660 Ti SLI

Thirdly, I've included an OCZ Vertex 4 128 GB in the forementioned build with the Western Digital HDD only being included as storage. The name though has got nothing to do with the performance which you seem to be led into thinking, and Western Digital HDD's include 3 years of warranty compared to Seagate's 2 years.


Finally, I would like to say that I have put together this build with the future in mind, I admit that a HD 7950 Crossfire/ GTX 660 Ti SLI is overkill for current games, but later with the release of next-generation games after the releases of the Wii U, XBOX 720 & PS4 there will be more "eye candy" but also a lot more processing power being needed to run these games at decent frame rates. There are also mods created for games to drastically enhance their visual aesthetics, mods such as iCEnhancer for GTA IV, Blackfire's Mod 2 for Crysis 2 and High Resolution Texture Packs for various games, which put more and more strain on your graphics cards, needing more power and more VRAM and with the release newer more demanding games, there will also be the releases of even more demanding modifications for those games. Remember this is just my opinion, the final decision is up to kelevra to make not me :)
 
Ahhhh yes I think this thread has seen some of the most technologically intellectual arguments I have ever seen, I think with all the input kelevra should be able to come up with something awesome, sorry if I sounded rude duff , we all learn something new, I surely did. I been around in overseas forums and I think they are really dumb compared most of our guys here on mybb and the sad thing is that they get all the good hardware :cry: compared to us.
 
Right here it goes:

*Razer Electra, Black, 40mm driver with neodymium magnets, 3.5mm Headphones

*Cooler Master CM 690II, Mid Tower, Black, with Windowed side panel, No PSU (bottom placed PSU design)

*Corsair H70 hydro cpu water cooling LGA775, LGA1366, LGA1156, AM2/AM3

*LG IPS235V-BN, 23" Led display with IPS technology (true 178° wide viewing angle)

*KFA2 NVIDIA GeForce GTX670 2GB GDDR5 256-bit PCI-E x16

*OCZ AGT4-25SAT3-128G Agility 4 Series 2.5" 128GB SATA3 SSD

*Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX, 1TB/1000GB, SATA6G

*Razer Arctosa Keyboard

*Razer Abyssus Mirror Edition Mouse

*Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance 2x4GB Kit DDR3-1600 1.5v CL9 Desktop

*Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H LGA1155 Dual-Channel DDR3 SLI/CrossFireX (Ivy Bridge)

*Sony AD-7260S DVD Writer 24X SATA Dual Layer - OEM

*Corsair HX750 80 Plus Silver 750w Modular Power Supply

*Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core 3.4GHz LGA1155 Boxed Processor (Ivy Bridge)
 
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kelevra said:
So,what do you guys think of this build?This is final and will be placing order next week...:D
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Perfect bro, cant even imagine the smile on your face when it arrives. If you spend some time tweaking and OC'ing the i5 its right up there with performance and has room for upgrade in the future. Perfect in every scenario.

Enjoy your new RIG bro :)

Edit: Remember to report back on your experience of the system.

Peace
 
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TheGoosen said:
Perfect bro, cant even imagine the smile on your face when it arrives. If you spend some time tweaking and OC'ing the i5 its right up there with performance and has room for upgrade in the future. Perfect in every scenario.

Enjoy your new RIG bro :)

Edit: Remember to report back on your experience of the system.

Peace
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I can't wait.....And I will most definately report back....And show some pics...
 
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