News servers

Well my testing has got pretty interesting........

I am using an old xnews (2009) reader for testing, as well as Grabit 1.7.2 Beta 6

With an 8ta IP in the 41.150.x.x range, it seems any newsgroup name with the word "binaries" in it, is not accessible at all. Yet other groups without "binaries" in the name, load the list of articles and allow reading.

(alt.binaries.test.files for example)
Xnews reports error "411 No such group"
Xnews also shows "200 wblv-ip-nnrp-2 NNTPCache server V3.0.2 [see www.nntpcache.com] (c) 1996-2002 Julian Assange <[email protected]> Mar 27 2008 ready (posting ok, 91264 groups available)."

Grabit reports "alt.binaries.test.files does not exist on this server"

With an 8ta IP in the 41.151.x.x range, this strange behaviour is not observed at all and this group is fully accessible :confused:

Is 8ta/Saix, somehow filtering groups with "binaries" in the name for IP's in the 41.150.x.x range and then denying access??

Any news server experts out there care to explain how this can be done?

Would be great if someone else can test and confirm this same issue and that it is not some anomaly in my setup somehow.

**Edit 00:12
I have confirmed this same strange behaviour on a desktop PC with MikroTik router and 8ta Modem, as well as a laptop with a different 8ta modem for its internet connection.

**Edit: 00:40
Tested alt.binaries.test.files with XS Usenet server "free.xsusenet.com".
Access to this particular group was not a problem using both the 41.150.x.x and 41.151.x.x 8ta IP ranges.
 
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I can only quess that filtering newsgroups project is on the way, some day you wake up the 41.151.x.x range will stop working as well...
 
ok I use my 8ta in a tplink router
is there anyway that I can configure my router to connect to the 41.151.x.x range only
if it doesnt it will disconnect and reconnect till it gets to the right range??

not sure if this is possible, hopefully its not too difficult
 
rodga said:
ok I use my 8ta in a tplink router
is there anyway that I can configure my router to connect to the 41.151.x.x range only
if it doesnt it will disconnect and reconnect till it gets to the right range??

not sure if this is possible, hopefully its not too difficult
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Not that I am aware of.
No scripting support in the TPLink as far as I remember.
I gave up on those routers a while ago and moved to the MikroTik.

But, as I said, this issue needs attention by 8ta, so that we don't have to resort to these workarounds.

Just not sure at the moment how to formulate an official request for their attention.
 
thanks i think you right
i got the 41.151 range and started downloading a 2gb file last night
hit my cap with 12mb left to go :mad:
but cant seem to connect to another 41.151 been trying all morning...
 
sajunky said:
I can only quess that filtering newsgroups project is on the way, some day you wake up the 41.151.x.x range will stop working as well...
Click to expand...

Not sure whether this filtering is intentional or not, or just a configuration issue.

I can understand 8ta/Telkom not wanting any other customers from other ISP's who are not on their network or who have no partner agreement, accessing their news server and overloading it downloading binaries.

Make more sense for them to allow their own ADSL and mobile customers access to cached binaries (cheaper local traffic) as opposed to customers simply using international news servers and contributing to more expensive international data for them.
 
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rodga said:
thanks i think you right
i got the 41.151 range and started downloading a 2gb file last night
hit my cap with 12mb left to go :mad:
but cant seem to connect to another 41.151 been trying all morning...
Click to expand...

Sign up for a free XS Usenet account.
It is slower, but works with no problem on 8ta 3G with both IP ranges.
There are no doubt other international news servers that will work as well.
 
ok so its been working fine for a while now
but I havent been able to downoad anything since Friday
I hope they havent blocked it again
just after I renewd my contract
 
hi all. moved to telkom mobile because news.saix.net works. Only 2 connections whereas on ADSL used to get more. Logged a query with TM to ask if I can get additional connections in my home office. "I have 4 usenet users on at the same time via the single router". I hope this doesn't go pear shaped.
 
Anyone having problems with it today?

Tracing route to news.saix.net [196.43.2.61]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 3 ms 1 ms router.asus.com [192.168.1.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * 27 ms 25 ms ipc-3-up.north.dsl.telkomsa.net [105.224.0.49]
4 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms 105.224.0.130
5 343 ms 260 ms 187 ms ipc-aggr-1.north.telkomsa.net [105.224.0.13]
6 26 ms 24 ms 25 ms cen-pr-02-be200-vl1.net.telkomsa.net [105.228.0.17]
7 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms rrba-ip-hsll-2-wan.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.166.225]
8 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms wblv-ip-essr-1-atm-2-0-0-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.11.22]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.
 
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