Newsgroup Access

[johanba]

Hi

How can I access newsgroups, Is there anyone that could assist to indicate how I can accessss newsgroups via the Sentech service

Please

Sentech indicates that it will only be availbel in Feb 2005

JB

 

[Luke7777]

I use a german server at http://news.cis.dfn.de/ Free, but you have register with a valid email. If you struggle with German a bit, the procedure is basically this :
Sent an email to [email protected] , containing your first & last name and a vaild email. They will respond with the necessary info

 

[johanba]

See message from DFNNETnews

Hi See message from DFNNETnews

Hello,

you have written to "[email protected]" for registration at the service DFNNetNews. Only organisations having signed a contract with the DFN about
the usage of DFNNetNews are allowed to use this service. From your e-mail
address we cannot see that you are a member of an such organisation.

However, if you do belong to such an organisation, please provide your e-mail
address there. Your account details will be sent only to that address.
For writing articles you may use any other address.

For more information about DFNNetNews, see (in German only)
http://www.dfn.de/content/dienstleistungen/dfnnetnews/
http://www.dfn.de/content/dienstleistungen/dfnnetnews/teilnehmer

In all other cases we regret not being able to grant access.


Regards
Carin Kietzmann, News.CIS.DFN.DE
--
DFNNetNews - http://news.cis.dfn.de
Häufig gestellte Fragen (frequently asked questions, FAQ):
http://news.cis.dfn.de/faq.html

 

[ernstn]

I subscribe to www.easynews.com as a newsgroup. So far I can seriously say that I have always had excellent results from using them. The cost is+-10$ for 10 gigabytes of downloads a month. They also have a web based interface as well as a newsreader service and two of the really useful functions that they offer is a search facility over newsgroups as well as a PAR viewer which always help in downloading all the relevant bits of a mutifile posting.

 

[Luke7777]

Try http://news.individual.net/
same server, different rules it looks like

 

[beerygaz]

It would seem that news.is.co.za is now accessible. Try it.

 

[Claymore]

It would seem that news.is.co.za is now accessible. Try it.

Oho! Must give that a try!

 

[privet]

[privet@NOT-MYWIRELESS-SERVER] telnet news.is.co.za 119
Trying 168.209.98.66...
Connected to netcache5.is.co.za (168.209.98.66).
Escape character is '^]'.
200 Welcome to news.is.co.za. Users connecting to this server do so at their own risk. IS is unable to and does not at any time exercise editorial control of any content posted on this infrastructure. http://www.is.co.za/aup
^]q

Connection closed.
11:02:48 ~>
[privet@NOT-MYWIRELESS-SERVER]

[privet@MYWIRELESS-SERVER]$ telnet news.is.co.za 119
Trying 168.209.98.66...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
[privet@MYWIRELESS-SERVER]$

Does not look like it is working...

 

[beerygaz]

Wierd, it works for me....

[host on sentech network]# telnet news.is.co.za 119
Trying 168.209.98.66...
Connected to news.is.co.za.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 Welcome to news.is.co.za. Users connecting to this server do so at their own risk. IS is unable to and does not at any time exercise editorial control of any content posted on this infrastructure. http://www.is.co.za/aup

 

[privet]

yes... weird

I can ping it:

[root@boson /root]# ping news.is.co.za
PING news.is.co.za (168.209.98.66) from 66.18.81.169 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from netcache5.is.co.za (168.209.98.66): icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=90.6 ms
64 bytes from netcache5.is.co.za (168.209.98.66): icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=157.3 ms
64 bytes from netcache5.is.co.za (168.209.98.66): icmp_seq=3 ttl=247 time=138.3 ms
64 bytes from netcache5.is.co.za (168.209.98.66): icmp_seq=4 ttl=247 time=138.6 ms
64 bytes from netcache5.is.co.za (168.209.98.66): icmp_seq=5 ttl=247 time=118.6 ms

traceroute seems to be blocked:

[root@boson /root]# traceroute news.is.co.za
traceroute to news.is.co.za (168.209.98.66), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 66.18.87.50 (66.18.87.50) 91.870 ms 536.180 ms 257.065 ms
2 66.18.67.98 (66.18.67.98) 196.899 ms 172.480 ms 158.134 ms
3 66.18.67.97 (66.18.67.97) 278.209 ms 317.651 ms 136.788 ms
4 66.18.67.25 (66.18.67.25) 139.724 ms 152.412 ms 137.498 ms
5 66.18.87.253 (66.18.87.253) 200.419 ms 172.777 ms 181.391 ms
6 66.18.87.241 (66.18.87.241) 195.091 ms 178.611 ms 158.106 ms
7 66.18.87.233 (66.18.87.233) 372.415 ms 332.240 ms 138.946 ms
8 66.18.87.225 (66.18.87.225) 195.638 ms 153.549 ms 158.259 ms
9 168.209.18.61 (168.209.18.61) 193.541 ms 134.081 ms 114.171 ms
10 core1b-rba-gi0-1.rtr.isnet.net (196.26.0.10) 140.212 ms 231.189 ms 182.434 ms
11 dante14.is.co.za (168.209.98.14) 172.052 ms 150.359 ms 380.734 ms
12 * * *
13 * * *
14 * * *
15 * * *
16 * * *
17 * *

But tcpdump show no return packets...

[root@boson /root]# tcpdump -n port 119
Kernel filter, protocol ALL, datagram packet socket
tcpdump: listening on all devices
13:08:03.465905 if17 > 66.18.81.169.3198 > 168.209.98.66.nntp: S 656627074:656627074(0) win 32660 <mss 1420,sackOK,timestamp 118972016 0,nop,wscale 0> (DF)
13:08:06.465256 if17 > 66.18.81.169.3198 > 168.209.98.66.nntp: S 656627074:656627074(0) win 32660 <mss 1420,sackOK,timestamp 118972316 0,nop,wscale 0> (DF)
13:08:12.467437 if17 > 66.18.81.169.3198 > 168.209.98.66.nntp: S 656627074:656627074(0) win 32660 <mss 1420,sackOK,timestamp 118972916 0,nop,wscale 0> (DF)
13:08:24.471792 if17 > 66.18.81.169.3198 > 168.209.98.66.nntp: S 656627074:656627074(0) win 32660 <mss 1420,sackOK,timestamp 118974116 0,nop,wscale 0> (DF)
13:08:48.480513 if17 > 66.18.81.169.3198 > 168.209.98.66.nntp: S 656627074:656627074(0) win 32660 <mss 1420,sackOK,timestamp 118976516 0,nop,wscale 0> (DF)

 

[Jerrek]

I subscribe to www.easynews.com as a newsgroup. So far I can seriously say that I have always had excellent results from using them. The cost is+-10$ for 10 gigabytes of downloads a month. They also have a web based interface as well as a newsreader service and two of the really useful functions that they offer is a search facility over newsgroups as well as a PAR viewer which always help in downloading all the relevant bits of a mutifile posting.

Usenetserver.com is $15 per month for unlimited traffic, which is what I do. And they're fast.

See this:
http://home.cogeco.ca/~johannj/net_stuff/realinternet.jpg

 

[ernstn]

Hi Jerek, I see that you are from Canada. You must remember that in South Africa, thanx to Telkom, 10gig is 3 times more than we can download with the 3gb cap that Telkom imposes. These overseas newsgroups do not only provide the infrastructure to collect and store all the newsgroup data, they also provide extra services such as search facilities as well as an infrastructure to cater for superfast downloads for all their customesr. All at a cost of +-R90 a month. Thanx to Telkom my ADSL access(ISP and rental) is over a R1000 per month plus they limit you to 3 gigs of data. People such as Telkom, IS and mweb do have local newsgroup access, but just about every file > 500 megabyte is incomplete. If everybody complains about costly overseas access, maybe they should consider setting up a proper newsgroup server in South Africa??