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Toyota RAV4 3 door- breakdown. Model 2000

Note; the first Toyota Company did the service and is carrying out the breakdown repairs, the second Toyota Company is where my RAV was taken to first, after the breakdown, then I had it transported back to the first Toyota Company.

1, My concerns are the manner in which the first Toyota Company handled the last service 19/06/2014, after I categorically stated my concern to the Service Adviser, Workshop Supervisor, and mechanic, that the red oil light was flickering.

Toyota made note on the Workshop Report stating “oil was less in the vehicle and sloggy“when the engine was drained, which supported their knowledge of my concern.

My other concern with the Workshop Report is how did the mechanic insure that he filled the engine with the correct amount of oil if there was slog (sloggy) in the sump?

If Toyota had notified me that corrective action was necessary to correct the red light, I would have given the go ahead, as I did with the windscreen repair when Toyota phoned me and reported chips on the windscreen, “I gave the go ahead”.

When fetching my RAV after the service, I was told by both the foreman and the mechanic that the engine was low on oil although the dipstick was indicating full; the explanation was that when the oil gets slogged, it blocks the dipstick pipe giving wrong dipstick oil levels.

When booking in the RAV for the breakdown at the second Toyota I was told by the workshop foreman that when the oil gets slogged it blocks the oil pump pick which will starve oil to the engine and cause the red light to come on, and the corrective action is to remove the sump and oil pump to clean, flushing was not an option to clean the sump and oil pump.

2, There is a discrepancy in the date and kilos for the service;
Service Schedule, service date is 18/06/2014, and kilos 207147.
Job Instruction Form, service date is 19/06/2014, and kilos 236973.

3, On the 8/05/2015 the service manager said that he would investigation the last service regarding the workshop foreman and the mechanic not taking action to the red light concern I mentioned when booking in for the service and to date I’m still waiting for a report.
4, Toyota did not writing down my concerns when booking in my RAV for a service which seems to be the trend at Toyota.
5, When booking in the RAV for the breakdown I asked the Service Adviser for a workshops report the reason why the engine failed, to date this report is still outstanding.
6, I have photos of the SLOG and the BLOCKED OIL PUMP PICKUP!

7, I was advised by the second Toyota Company that the aluminum engine block could not be re-bored; First Toyota Company is having it re-bored and rebuilt.


Insert from an E-mail received from Second Toyota Company
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Hi

I have looked into the quoting of the engine repair, we have had engineers out to listen to the engine and they confirmed that those aluminum blocks cannot be re-bored hence the quote for the complete engine.

The Service Manager from the First Toyota Company said he would strip the RAV engine and get the best price for renewal.
8, I have a comprehensive day to day recorded notes demonstrating my experiences of, visits/notes/e-mails/concerns, with the Two Toyota Companies.
9, I have requested Toyota to ensure me in writing one year warranty on all repairs carried out.
10, Toyota,
OUR PLEDGE TO YOU,

We honour our commitment to you?
We provide sound advice?
We will always keep you informed?
We provide quality technical expertise?
We value your input?
We strive to strengthen our relationship with you?
J Toyota touch
NOTE: - all the above pledges have been ignored!
11, I have all supporting documentation and photos of the service and the blocked oil pump pickup grid and the slog in the sump taken at Toyota on the day it was striped.


NOTE; To date I’ve have not heard from the first Toyota Company’s Dealer Principal, to whom I sent my concern Friday last week.






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Hi There

I’m posting my first concern on hellopeter;
I have a concern with Toyota UNFOLDING to a service and breakdown dilemma.
What I would like to advise all out there is that there is a very concerning occurrence to an engine if one is unaware.
On a long distance travel around June 2014 I experienced for the first time since having my vehicle which I acquired second hand having done 85000 kilos and I had driven it to around 200000 odd kilos when it happened.
I mentioned my concerns to the Toyota service personal when booking it in for a scheduled service immediately when I got to my destination.
When I received my vehicle back from Toyota I was told that all is good.

31/03/2015 driving to my destination it happened in the middle of nowhere when I experienced my very first breakdown.
I got ripped off by a break down service which added to my dilemma being stuck in a very rural area to get my vehicle to a safe place.
My vehicle was taken to Toyota and here is where my CONCERNS started.

I have submitted in writing with supporting documents my CONCERN with Toyota management waiting for their response.

I will post information as it unravels.


Hi there

Yes this is my first post and a bit of help would be nice?

I will give more detail once I get a reply from Toyota's management
 
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Pitbull

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I have moved away from Toyota long ago. They don't make their cars like they used to.

Do yourself a favour and by a Mitsubishi ;)

Assuming it's a bakkie or an SUV :p
 

Colin62

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So, your vehicle with 200 000km on the clock, and which was last serviced around in June 2014 broke down 9 months later and it's Toyota's FAULT?
 

Pitbull

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So, your vehicle with 200 000km on the clock, and which was last serviced around in June 2014 broke down 9 months later and it's Toyota's FAULT?

Might be service related. Doesn't mean it's not a service fault?
If they change your cambelt and it breaks 9 months down the line. Who's fault is it?
 

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Might be service related. Doesn't mean it's not a service fault?
If they change your cambelt and it breaks 9 months down the line. Who's fault is it?

At the very worst, the cambelt manufacturers fault...

Still not Toyota's fault.
 

Pitbull

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At the very worst, the cambelt manufacturers fault...

Still not Toyota's fault.

I suppose. That is to say if they changed it like they were suppose to.
I don't know the details as the OP is a bit lacking on facts. Just thought that was a quick assumption to make given the lack of facts.
 

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I suppose. That is to say if they changed it like they were suppose to.
I don't know the details as the OP is a bit lacking on facts. Just thought that was a quick assumption to make given the lack of facts.

In the instance of the cambelt, if they didn't change it when they were supposed to then yes their fault, if they did.. then not their fault.
 

Colin62

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Might be service related. Doesn't mean it's not a service fault?
If they change your cambelt and it breaks 9 months down the line. Who's fault is it?

Yeah, my post was really an attempt to get the OP to dole out a little more detail. But it is also a synopsis of all the pertinent facts I could find in his post.
 

Colin62

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Am I the only one wondering WTF is up with the title?

I suspect the poster didn't know what to use as a thread title, (and quite possibly doesn't know what a thread title is) and just reused his nickname. I'm guessing English isn't his first language...
 

neziuhnaki

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Hi Colin62

I would like first to hear what Toyota has to say about my concern, supported by documentation and photos before I post more detail.

I will be very interested to get the views of all out there and how-many is aware of what can go wrong.

Believe me this concern is pretty heavy and related to a break down.
 

Colin62

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Hi Colin62

I would like first to hear what Toyota has to say about my concern, supported by documentation and photos before I post more detail.

I will be very interested to get the views of all out there and how-many is aware of what can go wrong.

Believe me this concern is pretty heavy and related to a break down.

You'll just get wild speculation here until you actually tell us what happened. As it is, no-one has a clue what went wrong and any opinions based on that are totally worthless.
 

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OP- "Help! My car broke down!"

The rest of us - "what happened?"

OP - "No I can't tell you but it was bad"

What???
 

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Hi Colin62

I would like first to hear what Toyota has to say about my concern, supported by documentation and photos before I post more detail.

I will be very interested to get the views of all out there and how-many is aware of what can go wrong.

Believe me this concern is pretty heavy and related to a break down.

You do realise that a car is a very complex piece of machinery, and there is a lot that can go wrong.

I especially hate it when my flux capacitor breaks, that **** can leave stuck in the past.
 
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