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Nokia = BIG PROBLEMS!
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JimM
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The problem in South Africa is that Nokia themselves do not have their own operations here unlike the UK where you can walk in to a Nokia (yes owned by Nokia) and just ask for a firmware upgrade and drink a coffee while you wait. You can even buy self fit parts at Nokia Service Centres in the UK like LCD screens etc.
If you don't like Nokia:
You have Samdung - High Tech Style that falls to bits and parts cost a fortune! e.g. a E370 LCD = R1014 TRADE! (and Samdung was NOT a typo).
Sony Ericsson - Tried and trusted two year old technology with a joystick that fails after 12 months, one day and two hours after you get the phone!
LG - LG that's Lucky Goldstar to those who don't know. Their original name Goldstar vanished as of course did the Titanic.
Siemens BenQ - May be not...
Motorola - The few Motorola phones that are actually made by Motorola are reasonable, the rest by Compal or Acer are not!
Nokia have had problems with early firmware on some of the N Series - But for all of the N Series you can upgrade the firmware yourself online with just a DKU-2 USB Cable, its foolproof unless you have a BA in stupidity of course!
The Symbian OS is neither fast or great to use but it is stable!
So if you're fed up with Nokia get another brand and in two years you can get a Nokia again when you've realised how bad the other choices are!
Just a word of warning for those with iJam's and the like, just be aware that taking it in for repair (even under warranty) may result in you being told that its BER (beyond economic repair) for some semi-plausible reason! I've had two now both returned from the big two as BER and both were ten minute fixes needing no parts whatsoever!
If you don't like Nokia:
You have Samdung - High Tech Style that falls to bits and parts cost a fortune! e.g. a E370 LCD = R1014 TRADE! (and Samdung was NOT a typo).
Sony Ericsson - Tried and trusted two year old technology with a joystick that fails after 12 months, one day and two hours after you get the phone!
LG - LG that's Lucky Goldstar to those who don't know. Their original name Goldstar vanished as of course did the Titanic.
Siemens BenQ - May be not...
Motorola - The few Motorola phones that are actually made by Motorola are reasonable, the rest by Compal or Acer are not!
Nokia have had problems with early firmware on some of the N Series - But for all of the N Series you can upgrade the firmware yourself online with just a DKU-2 USB Cable, its foolproof unless you have a BA in stupidity of course!
The Symbian OS is neither fast or great to use but it is stable!
So if you're fed up with Nokia get another brand and in two years you can get a Nokia again when you've realised how bad the other choices are!
Just a word of warning for those with iJam's and the like, just be aware that taking it in for repair (even under warranty) may result in you being told that its BER (beyond economic repair) for some semi-plausible reason! I've had two now both returned from the big two as BER and both were ten minute fixes needing no parts whatsoever!
ROFL!!!
Dont diss SE joystick, its only certain folk that have problems with it.
Yes Nokia allows you to upgrade via the net, while SE allows you to do on your phone.
Did you say symbian was stable? WHats your definition of stable?
I dont know what industry you in, or what you really know about phones, but from that post, you like sucking stuff out of your thumb!
JimM
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As I've already said in another thread I'm in the cellular trade. Unlike yourself who probably knows someone who has a friend who's brother...
I've actually worked out why you're so upset, you have a Sony Ericsson don't you?
Symbian is quite stable, compared to Windows it's rock solid! But then again so is water!
I'm not sure why you need to end your posts with an insult each time? Probably something that goes with being a (snigger) Sony Ericsson owner?
I've actually worked out why you're so upset, you have a Sony Ericsson don't you?
Symbian is quite stable, compared to Windows it's rock solid! But then again so is water!
I'm not sure why you need to end your posts with an insult each time? Probably something that goes with being a (snigger) Sony Ericsson owner?
Pixual
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How flippin' condescending!
You have no idea what I do for a living, nor do you know what level of technology I am comfortable with, but you seem to think that because my Nokia N80 can't hold a Bluetooth signal for longer than 50 minutes that somehow I am incapable of using this phone?
The menus on the N80 are illogical and poorly thought out. Period. And that's coming from a web designer & former mainframe programmer.
You should see the condition of the N70 that Nashua has loaned me. Hmmm... there's hardly any paint left on the plastic back.
Clearly you have never owned a 3310. Another stinker.
AntiThesis
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Oh no! I typo. Well that obviously completely invalidates my entire post. Wait no it doesn't. Punctuation seems to be one of your weak points but I don't use it as a basis to judge your posts do I?
My apologies AmaZulu. I didn't mean to come off as condescending.
You'll also notice if you read my post that I didn't once comment on what you do for a living or any possible link between your particular phone's inability to hold a Bluetooth connection and any lack of tech-savvy you may or may not have.
I merely said that if you find the menus confusing you shouldn't be using the phone. It's true. Perhaps you would be more comfortable with one of the other models or brands.
The menus to me are easy to navigate and not at all complex. And I'm a web designer, current programmer and IS Administrator. But as that has nothing to do with the phone's advantages or disadvantages I don't see why it should be mentioned at all.
Someone must have done a real number on that N70 to damage it so badly. I suppose it's possible that there are people out there more accident prone than myself and more likely to abuse a phone beyond what it is meant to sustain.
I have owned a 3310 and enjoyed it. In the spirit of fairness and just in case I was mistaken, I even looked up a couple of reviews online.
Softpedia gives it 6.7/10 as compared to the Sony-Ericsson W200 which gets a 6.3/10.
In my personal experience Nokia has always performed well and in a stable manner where many other brands have failed me in some way or another.
In fact if you take a look at CNET.Com's Top 10 Mobile Phones you'll notice a strange thing. First is the 02 Xda Atom, then the Nokia N70 and only then the SE W800i.
Weird huh?
Diago
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Babysitter Please....
The issue with a thread like this is that it very quickly becomes personal and people often forget the following:
Each person has his/her own experience and opinion of a cell phone or gadget.
Strangely this has been the bases of many wars including:
Microsoft vs Linux
PC vs Mac
iPod vs Zune
Nokia vs SE
Intel vs AMD
Each time this happen the only thing that is proved that each person has his own experiences and should be able to post their opinions and express their distaste or liking for a device/item/subject without having to wonder if someone is going to take offense.
It is unfortunately threads like this one that stops a lot of us from posting anything since there is always someone that has to have the last say or needs to increase their post counts.
I am a 100% satisfied SE user, my fiancé a 100% satisfied Nokia user. I have owned almost every brand of phone and like and dislike each for particular reasons.
Considering that I am assuming we are all adults here I suggest everyone gets off their high horses and maybe go back to the topic at hand. Someone had a bad experience with a Nokia and wanted to have a chance to make a statement. Allow everyone that freedom, it's what forums, the internet and MyADSL is about.
The issue with a thread like this is that it very quickly becomes personal and people often forget the following:
Each person has his/her own experience and opinion of a cell phone or gadget.
Strangely this has been the bases of many wars including:
Microsoft vs Linux
PC vs Mac
iPod vs Zune
Nokia vs SE
Intel vs AMD
Each time this happen the only thing that is proved that each person has his own experiences and should be able to post their opinions and express their distaste or liking for a device/item/subject without having to wonder if someone is going to take offense.
It is unfortunately threads like this one that stops a lot of us from posting anything since there is always someone that has to have the last say or needs to increase their post counts.
I am a 100% satisfied SE user, my fiancé a 100% satisfied Nokia user. I have owned almost every brand of phone and like and dislike each for particular reasons.
Considering that I am assuming we are all adults here I suggest everyone gets off their high horses and maybe go back to the topic at hand. Someone had a bad experience with a Nokia and wanted to have a chance to make a statement. Allow everyone that freedom, it's what forums, the internet and MyADSL is about.
Pixual
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Diago...Stop Making Sense.
AntiThesis
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What AmaZulu said 
Besides... I thought that's what we were doing anyways? We've all said our bit and it doesn't change the validity of anyone's statements ^_^
Besides... I thought that's what we were doing anyways? We've all said our bit and it doesn't change the validity of anyone's statements ^_^
I always wonder what drives a person to feel obliged to defend products/brands from companies that offers him/her no portion of the revenue and profits? It is as if persons feel personally threatened and insulted when the products/brands they own are disrespected. Why?
I've owned phones from almost all manufacturers - and they've all been good and bad. I haven't found the perfect phone yet - and I know I never will.
The big corporations must love it when the volunteer army of faithful suckers march out to defend them and their products. The power of coercion ...
I've owned phones from almost all manufacturers - and they've all been good and bad. I haven't found the perfect phone yet - and I know I never will.
The big corporations must love it when the volunteer army of faithful suckers march out to defend them and their products. The power of coercion ...
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currently Nokia is the only Mobile Phone manufacturer that i am aware of that offers a 2 year warranty on their phones.With the current rate of new models from all the manufacturers appearing on the world market , R&D must be limited, resulting in the customer becoming Beta testers to iron out all the problems , one advantage we have in South Africa is models appearing a few few months later , if you were to check the Hardware Versions you will find that some of these phones have hardware improvements compared to the originally released units .
As I've already said in another thread I'm in the cellular trade. Unlike yourself who probably knows someone who has a friend who's brother...
I've actually worked out why you're so upset, you have a Sony Ericsson don't you?
Symbian is quite stable, compared to Windows it's rock solid! But then again so is water!
I'm not sure why you need to end your posts with an insult each time? Probably something that goes with being a (snigger) Sony Ericsson owner?
Im in the same trade, but not sure how you came with your theologies.
But ye we can leave it there.
@ Anti
In your top 10 list, which is not based on stats but rather one person review,
shows 2 SE phone in the top 5.... "wierd huh?"
@ 3Gee
All phones have 2 year warranties.
AntiThesis
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I know JK8... I didn't say there weren't SE phones in the list but that the N70 topped them.
JimM
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Im in the same trade, but not sure how you came with your theologies.
Simple, we see what goes out the door and we see what comes back!
May be handsets get an easier life outside of the city?
It's just a pity Nokia don't have real Nokia owned and operated service centres here as a swap out is so much less hassle for the end user.
I believe that SE now operate a similar service scheme in the UK.
Maybe the city guys are more spoilt and not to patient to deal with tiny little handset problems, and think they know their rights and always try and pressure SPs to get what they want.
Ye currently SE and Blackberry have the best after sale service, BB especially, if your phone has a level ? problem they just give you a brand new one.