"Non-existent" IT contract uncovered

Was any funds transferred to pay for this "services"? :confused:
 
It cannot be! Zuma said it his SOTN (state of nation address) - that there is no crime taking place at government level! :erm:
 
This is typical of the thievery that goes on in the government, now they want to muzzle the press and whistle blowers with the secrets act WTF
"Complaining that the leak “undermines the systems and processes we have put in place to ensure a clean and effective administration”, director general Thabane Zulu said the motive behind it might have been self-interest and warned of “steps to correct such matters consistent with available remedies"
In this government if they are not thieving they are turning a blind eye to it :mad:
 
See, they're not upset that corruption was exposed, they're upset that the information leaked out.

Like a child getting his hand caught in the cookie jar after his sister went to call his mom and the child then getting mad at his sister for it instead of owning up that what he was doing was wrong and paying for it with the naughty chair...
 
With their intelligence level WTF you expect. What makes this sooo bad is that the MoFos are basically stealing from the people who voted them there in the first place. And even worse, because the voters themselves have a low IQ, they keep on voting for the crooks time and again. But yeah, this is Africa - if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.
 
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intel8080 said:
With their intelligence level WTF you expect. What makes this sooo bad is that the MoFos are basically stealing from the people who voted them there in the first place. And even worse, because the voters themselves have a low IQ, they keep on voting for the crooks time and again. But yeah, this is Africa - if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.
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It's just too bad that it's so hard getting out of this kitchen due to legislation against SA exactly for corruption (false passports/entry into other countries/human trafficking)
 
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jes said:
"Non-existent" IT contract uncovered

Internal auditors have blown the whistle on a R72.6-million IT contract negotiated by the department of human settlements
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What a bohaai over a measly 72million? - SAS is, and always has been, bloody expensive. It's priced in USD so translated backwards it's only about 10million USD.

It's pretty much regarded as the gorilla of the BI world though...
 
Surely you jest .
Corruption is the scourge of Africa.
R72 million will buy a lot of houses for poor people .
 
Thabane zulu I hope u get what u deserve and if u were involved also then I hope u rot in jail!I have a strong feeling he is somehow involved!Why else would he be taking the expose so personally?

In government unfortunately usually when someone gets caught they simply include the person who caught them in the deal and they all get away with it!good to see someone exposing this for once.
 
FNfal said:
Surely you jest .
Corruption is the scourge of Africa.
R72 million will buy a lot of houses for poor people .
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Nope not joking - in large IT system terms, R72million is not an awfully large amount of money to spend on a project from end to end - it's a lot, but by no means astronomical.

Just a matter of perspective I suppose - by way of example, Standard Bank's bill for the implementation of SAP is currently running in the region of R3billion...

Information Technology solutions ARE expensive - the question that should be asked is whether the Dept is going to derive the value from it's spend.
 
AfricanTech said:
Nope not joking - in large IT system terms, R72million is not an awfully large amount of money to spend on a project from end to end - it's a lot, but by no means astronomical.

Just a matter of perspective I suppose - by way of example, Standard Bank's bill for the implementation of SAP is currently running in the region of R3billion...

Information Technology solutions ARE expensive - the question that should be asked is whether the Dept is going to derive the value from it's spend.
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Everything is relative. Google spend on data centres is estimated in the tens of billions of dollars, therefore anything less is "nothing"?? Please, keep context and leave your know it all views to yourself, because 76mil rands is a **** load of our hard earned money that went to anc coffers.
 
FNfal said:
This is typical of the thievery that goes on in the government, now they want to muzzle the press and whistle blowers with the secrets act WTF
"Complaining that the leak “undermines the systems and processes we have put in place to ensure a clean and effective administration”, director general Thabane Zulu said the motive behind it might have been self-interest and warned of “steps to correct such matters consistent with available remedies"
In this government if they are not thieving they are turning a blind eye to it :mad:
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Unbelievable - not bothered about R72 million of taxpayers' money possibly being dumped in to some tech hole, rather lets find the guy who let people know there is an investigation ALREADY underway in a PUBLIC department. I still don't know why all public finances aren't freely available online - that along with any contracts documents for current and past agreements. That would not compromise any security - knowing Dept. X buys IT solution Y from company P for a specified amount has no bearing on the actual system itself - just the cost, what its purpose is and who is providing it. As shareholders in government we have a right to see this information.

That would also help other departments benchmark costs for various solutions and realise if they are being ripped off. Imagine Limpopo did this for something simple like that photocopy scandal on Carte Blanche some time ago and could have compared to Gauteng prices....
 
reactor_sa said:
Everything is relative. Google spend on data centres is estimated in the tens of billions of dollars, therefore anything less is "nothing"?? Please, keep context and leave your know it all views to yourself, because 76mil rands is a **** load of our hard earned money that went to anc coffers.
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Umm, if I understand the original article correctly, the money would be going into SAS's coffers and whoever hold the Project Management / Implementation contract.

Wake up and smell the coffee - the Minister of Finance just tabled a 1 trillion rand (yes, Trillion) budget - imagine how many houses that could build....oh wait, if we spent all the money on houses we wouldn't be able to fund anything else.

Grow up, there's a real world out there and money will need to be spent on IT lest we descend into complete banana republicdom.

As an aside, having been personally involved with large RDP housing schemes 15 years you'd be shocked at how little R72 million actually buys you.

Oh, and as taxpayer myself, of course I'm p!ssed off as hell at the amount of waste within government - the waste is however not only at the visible end of spectrum ie. the stuff that appears in the newspaper - the real tragic, hidden waste is the cost of inefficiency - the fact that it takes 3-4 years to go through the approval process for a large IT system / program so that by the time implementation takes place it obsolete and redundant.

Aah, you got me going - I'm not trying to defending the wasteful fffers in government - I was merely commenting on the fact that R72 million is not a lot of money in the big scheme of things - makes for a lekker sensational headline though!
 
reactor_sa said:
Everything is relative. Google spend on data centres is estimated in the tens of billions of dollars, therefore anything less is "nothing"?? Please, keep context and leave your know it all views to yourself, because 76mil rands is a **** load of our hard earned money that went to anc coffers.
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If you don't like my know it all views by all means skip them!
 
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