Noob question

[STORMERSFAN]

Hi guys so I've just move to a house where fibre is installed but not active.. When I type in my address on mweb and afrihost it says I can choose between Openserve and vumatel.. How does this happen(not that I'm complaining as choice is always good)Then the second part.. I can get a 10/5 for R399 through mweb on Openserve.. Thx in advance.. Ps I see vuma is more expensive.. Why is that?A 10/2 through afrihost on vuma is R629

 

[buyeye]

You have 2 FNO's available. Fibre network operators. The mweb one is a promotion and the vumatel one is a normal price.

Check the fine print on the mweb one on how long you keep that price.

 

[Sopbeen]

just avoid mweb like the plague. You will regret the day you sign on that dotted line.

Why is it so cheap, you ask? Because its shite. Thats the answer. Their service and product is absolute shite.

 

[Foxhound5366]

Something I'm not sure of is whether the fibre installation to your apartment belongs to the FNO who installed it, but it might. In which case you can't contact Vumatel to just activate that line if it's an Open Serve installation ... Vumatel would need to come do their own installation.

Does anyone know how that works?

 

[Sopbeen]

Does anyone know how that works?

You have 2 companies that each have their own infrastructure available. They each send their own technicians or installation team. One has got nothing to do with the other. Well, other than having a choice between the two.

 

[cavedog]

Something I'm not sure of is whether the fibre installation to your apartment belongs to the FNO who installed it, but it might. In which case you can't contact Vumatel to just activate that line if it's an Open Serve installation ... Vumatel would need to come do their own installation.

Does anyone know how that works?

If it's Vumatel it's a migrate in. If it's Openserve and he wants Vumatel the install fee will apply.

If it's Openserve the B number is likely ceased already and he needs to signup for new installation. It's free with minimal or no clawback on most ISPs anyways.

Mweb and Webafrica sells the 10Mbps at R399. They are making a loss on that product as the wholesale line rental is more than that.

 

[Foxhound5366]

You have 2 companies that each have their own infrastructure available. They each send their own technicians or installation team. One has got nothing to do with the other. Well, other than having a choice between the two.

Yeah I know, but I'm talking about what happens if there's an existing installation in your apartment ... you can't just call up one of the other FNOs active in your area and ask them to link that up, because it's physically linked into their competitor's network right? Somehow you'd have to figure out which service provider has actually installed into that complex ... in my experience only one FNO installs to a complex, so you just need to ask the body corporate (but it means you don't have all the local options like the OP is presuming).

 

[cavedog]

Yeah I know, but I'm talking about what happens if there's an existing installation in your apartment ... you can't just call up one of the other FNOs active in your area and ask them to link that up, because it's physically linked into their competitor's network right? Somehow you'd have to figure out which service provider has actually installed into that complex ... in my experience only one FNO installs to a complex, so you just need to ask the body corporate (but it means you don't have all the local options like the OP is presuming).

They are separate. You can have both installed they don't affect each other at all.

Just identify the ont.

Openserve = Huawei , Alcatel or Nokia
Vumatel = Raycore for trenched usually or Huawei branded with Vuma for Arial or Calix for Villages

 

[Sopbeen]

They are separate. You can have both installed they don't affect each other at all.

Just identify the ont.

Openserve = Huawei , Alcatel or Nokia
Vumatel = Raycore for trenched usually or Huawei branded with Vuma for Arial or Calix for Villages

Yar or ask your ISP to do their job and assist. Oh wait, OP is looking at mweb. Probably better identifying it himself then.

 

[Foxhound5366]

They are separate. You can have both installed they don't affect each other at all.

Just identify the ont.

Openserve = Huawei , Alcatel or Nokia
Vumatel = Raycore for trenched usually or Huawei branded with Vuma for Arial or Calix for Villages

Reading that other story on here where it talks about the FNO that got the two complexes to sign six-year exclusivity deals in return for laying fibre to the complexes, that confirms you'll be unlikely to have any complex that has two FNOs installed within it. Private houses yes, but complexes no.

So remember kids, the big question when moving is not "Is there fibre to the area?" but rather "Is there fibre to the complex (and who with)?"

 

[Sopbeen]

Reading that other story on here where it talks about the FNO that got the two complexes to sign six-year exclusivity deals in return for laying fibre to the complexes, that confirms you'll be unlikely to have any complex that has two FNOs installed within it. Private houses yes, but complexes no.

So remember kids, the big question when moving is not "Is there fibre to the area?" but rather "Is there fibre to the complex (and who with)?"

You're the only one going on about complexes mate. In my previous complex we had openserv and vumatel. No exclusivity. Infact - If I had the money to pay octotel, I could have got them to pull fibre too.

 

[STORMERSFAN]

Something I'm not sure of is whether the fibre installation to your apartment belongs to the FNO who installed it, but it might. In which case you can't contact Vumatel to just activate that line if it's an Open Serve installation ... Vumatel would need to come do their own installation.

Does anyone know how that works?

Previous tenants were using vuma and afrihost

 

[cavedog]

Reading that other story on here where it talks about the FNO that got the two complexes to sign six-year exclusivity deals in return for laying fibre to the complexes, that confirms you'll be unlikely to have any complex that has two FNOs installed within it. Private houses yes, but complexes no.

So remember kids, the big question when moving is not "Is there fibre to the area?" but rather "Is there fibre to the complex (and who with)?"

It's still very possible. Remember those complexes signed exclusive deals because they wanted fibre and no one was really keen to install probably because of the backhaul issue or the build not feasible when they considered the returns.

In the cities FNOs are competitive. I rented a flat in an estate that had Aeonova360 rush in and do the installation. Then Metrofibre came and installed and started harassing me telephonically to choose them I already had fibre with A360.

 

[cavedog]

Previous tenants were using vuma and afrihost

Okay cool then you can migrate in on Vumatel or if you want Openserve they offer free installation and is better priced on the lower speed packages than Vumatel.

If you do signup for Openserve then they will do their own install.

 

[STORMERSFAN]

Yar or ask your ISP to do their job and assist. Oh wait, OP is looking at mweb. Probably better identifying it himself then.

Am I better off getting a lte product of 60/60 for R399 rather than going through mweb?

 

[cavedog]

Am I better off getting a lte product of 60/60 for R399 rather than going through mweb?

Rather go for the very bad support and get the fibre at least it will be uncapped. You should be able to squeeze better performance out of the cheap fibre than LTE latency wise.

Just check the terms.

 

[Sopbeen]

Yea that depends heavily. Fibre as a service is FAR superior to LTE. But.... 10mbit from mweb..... vs 60mbit LTE....

Thats a hard call to make. If the LTE is uncapped, you can probably push more data... But the fibre will give better performance/reliability. Even if it is through mweb

 

[buyeye]

I would try to find the extra R200 and get uncapped fibre with good support.