Nuke & pave on wife's broken MBA - options to avoid?

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Anyone with suggestions - hoping someone comes up with something I haven't tried.

Long story short - wife's MBA is doing some funny things, and the 'standard' solutions suggested by various articles/support sites, are not working.

1.) Mac App Store is not doing anything except showing blank/white pages for all of the content tabs.
2.) Safari AND Chrome are loading blank/white pages (content is 'there' underneath the cursor), but is not rendering/being loaded. As in, resting over an 'invisible' link, sees the tool-tip confirm what the underlying link is - clicking on it, loads that link through to a new page, which also doesn't render, remains blank.
Firefox is working just fine, weirdly.

3.)Messages will not open its main page - but since it's been deactivated on her MBA since the beginning, not sure if this is related (I can open its preferences window, and activate/log-in, but cannot open the main message/thread window).

4.)Photos is acting up - again, not sure if this is related, but when selecting a photo thumbnail, as soon as the springboard effect launches - just when the photo gets to the point where it expands to its full-view, it reverts to a blank page. So the thumbnails of the photos are visible in the side-bar, or main view as thumbnails, but as soon as you select a photo to view it in full in the main viewer, it blanks...

This has me thinking there is something funny going on with rendering of images.

I'm not clear if this is to blame - but her company's IT has her running a deprecated version of Firefox in order to allow for the Silverlight plugin to still work.
She needs the latter to be able to access work-related websites.
They also have her running Adobe Flash (which I deactivated on my Mac years ago).

Neither Flash, Firefox nor Silverlight are running the latest versions (I think Silverlight might actually have been discontinued even).
No doubt the above poses serious security issues, which probably explains why she was compelled by the IT department to install a Sophos AV program - the cynic in me thinks this is to try and pick-up anything bad happening from her accessing the web with a 4-version old Firefox, and older FLASH version... I presume Silverlight is possibly problematic as well, from a security-perspective.

Any thoughts on if the latter could be related to what is happening?

I've tried plenty of tricks so far, and nothing is making a dent....

Removed the application caches; played around with location settings for purposes of MAS; removed PLIST files; Did the PRam reset; Logged-in as Guest User (same issues); Logged in to Safe-Mode (same issues); Rebooted; Restarted; Checked Activity Monitor and killed processes related to the affected Apps, force-quit and restarted. Oh, and whereas suggestions were made to disable various Safari plug-ins, that surely cannot be the root since it doesn't explain what is happening with the MAS and Photos (assuming the issues are related)...

She's running the latest version of El Capitan...
Preferred not to upgrade, due to the later issues with PDFs, which she uses plenty of, daily.
Was thinking of upgrading now... only I cannot get the MAS to work... :crylaugh:

Would REALLY appreciate some suggestions!
 
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Backup and reinstall El Cap?
 
Backup and reinstall El Cap?

So you agree it sounds like there is something funky going on across the system?

Since her MAS isn't working properly – what are my options? Would I boot into Recovery mode, and go from there? Would it allow for a re-install of El Cap, or try and go to High-Sierra?
 
So you agree it sounds like there is something funky going on across the system?

Since her MAS isn't working properly – what are my options? Would I boot into Recovery mode, and go from there? Would it allow for a re-install of El Cap, or try and go to High-Sierra?

Download El Cap from the app store and make a USB boot drive. If there's having compatibility issues with PDFs on later operating systems you won't be doing her any favours upgrading.
 
Download El Cap from the app store and make a USB boot drive. If there's having compatibility issues with PDFs on later operating systems you won't be doing her any favours upgrading.

Upgrade to lastest os. High-Sierra. There are no compatibility issues with PDFs and those sort of 'standard' files. High-Sierra has a better filesystem as well and will probably save space on the drive.

OP. Back up / copy what you need off it. Download High-Sierra - make a bootable USB and just reinstall.
 
Upgrade to lastest os. High-Sierra. There are no compatibility issues with PDFs and those sort of 'standard' files. High-Sierra has a better filesystem as well and will probably save space on the drive.

OP. Back up / copy what you need off it. Download High-Sierra - make a bootable USB and just reinstall.

If someone upgraded my OS without asking I'd stab them in the head with a pine cone...
 
Ja. Think easiest will be to take plunge on upgrade route. I'm on Sierra, and haven't had major issues.

Have a Sierra install-USB, so will go that route - will be simpler than re-downloading El Cap, and then getting another flash disk to install it on.

If I boot to recovery, can I simply plug in my Sierra installer and go from there?

Once Sierra is installed, will upgrade to High-Sierra for the possible space saving (she's on a 256GB MBA, so that could help quite a bit).
 
If someone upgraded my OS without asking I'd stab them in the head with a pine cone...

Lol. Bet some Windows users would have some stories to share on that front.

But SO is on board, and feels like a bit of a fresh-start.
 
Have you tried logging into another user account? Does the problem go away?

If so then it’s an inherent configuration issue to that user.

In which case a good option would be to move all Preference files out and reboot so they are recreated.

You could then live with setting things up all over again or replace the preference files one by one until you find the culprit.

The easier option would be to upgrade to High Sierra as a start.

If that doesn’t work reinstall it again with the archive and reinstall function, which will nuke all the preferences but keep the data.

PDF’s really can’t be an issue as the entire GUI is rendered as a PDF essentially, or at least it used to be.

Unless that is literally what broken in this case which could kind of explain the white space rendering.

Since all the problems seem to relate or web page rendering it could even be a WebKit issue. AppStore is just a web page after all.
 
Have you tried logging into another user account? Does the problem go away?

If so then it’s an inherent configuration issue to that user.

In which case a good option would be to move all Preference files out and reboot so they are recreated.

You could then live with setting things up all over again or replace the preference files one by one until you find the culprit.

The easier option would be to upgrade to High Sierra as a start.

If that doesn’t work reinstall it again with the archive and reinstall function, which will nuke all the preferences but keep the data.

PDF’s really can’t be an issue as the entire GUI is rendered as a PDF essentially, or at least it used to be.

Unless that is literally what broken in this case which could kind of explain the white space rendering.

Since all the problems seem to relate or web page rendering it could even be a WebKit issue. AppStore is just a web page after all.

I have - set-up the Guest Login option and tried - again with Firefox working, but Chrome, Safari and the App Store not rendering as they should. Also booted into Safe Mode, with the same result.

If I boot into recovery mode, will it allow me to try and restore/install from my Sierra-USB? Once done, I could then presumably upgrade to High-Sierra (assuming Sierra fixes the App Store issue?)
 
Easiest will be just to upgrade to Sierra over the Al Capitan installation, this might not fix your issue though but maybe try it first.
Just insert the bootable USB with Sierra and it will open up the installer and you can follow the steps.

If upgrading to Sierra over the current Al Capitan doesn't solve your issues, then a format and install Sierra fresh.
1. Do a Time Machine backup on a external.
2. Boot in to recovery mode, go to disc utility and format.
3. Insert USB with Sierra installer.
4. Restart and boot from the USB with installer.
5. Do the installation and restore all files from Time Machine backup.
Would maybe recommend that you don't restore the preferences in case some or other preference is the cause, bit of a shlep but run threw all system preferences after the fresh install and configure everything again.

P.S. Make sure you have everything backed up Time Machine or otherwise before trying anything.
P.P.S. I'm running High Sierra on my 2015 MBP without any issues. I'm having some speed issues on my late 2013 iMac though, but it only has 8 GB RAM and still has a spinning hard drive. So from my side yes to High Sierra on a machine with a SSD, no to High Sierra on a older machine with a HDD.
 
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. Looks like I will be spending some time over the weekend with the SO's MBA, doing the install.

Hopefully, that will sort everything out!
 
I have - set-up the Guest Login option and tried - again with Firefox working, but Chrome, Safari and the App Store not rendering as they should. Also booted into Safe Mode, with the same result.

If I boot into recovery mode, will it allow me to try and restore/install from my Sierra-USB? Once done, I could then presumably upgrade to High-Sierra (assuming Sierra fixes the App Store issue?)
USB install itself would be Recovery Mode from USB.

Recovery Mode would fetch from internet.
 
Easiest will be just to upgrade to Sierra over the Al Capitan installation, this might not fix your issue though but maybe try it first.
Just insert the bootable USB with Sierra and it will open up the installer and you can follow the steps.

If upgrading to Sierra over the current Al Capitan doesn't solve your issues, then a format and install Sierra fresh.
1. Do a Time Machine backup on a external.
2. Boot in to recovery mode, go to disc utility and format.
3. Insert USB with Sierra installer.
4. Restart and boot from the USB with installer.
5. Do the installation and restore all files from Time Machine backup.
Would maybe recommend that you don't restore the preferences in case some or other preference is the cause, bit of a shlep but run threw all system preferences after the fresh install and configure everything again.

P.S. Make sure you have everything backed up Time Machine or otherwise before trying anything.
P.P.S. I'm running High Sierra on my 2015 MBP without any issues. I'm having some speed issues on my late 2013 iMac though, but it only has 8 GB RAM and still has a spinning hard drive. So from my side yes to High Sierra on a machine with a SSD, no to High Sierra on a older machine with a HDD.
You can skip Step 2.

Disk Utility is in the USB installer.

Safe Mode would have ignored the Preferences files so if that didn't work the Preferences trick probably won't either so best to replace them all.

Upgrade will reset a lot of them anyway.
 
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