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Numsa to end metals strike?
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ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
No, not good enough.
The employers must stick to their guns, original offer, or NUMSA must sod off. Offer must also include some kind of clause that should they strike within the period of the agreement, its an automatic dismissal.
The employers must stick to their guns, original offer, or NUMSA must sod off. Offer must also include some kind of clause that should they strike within the period of the agreement, its an automatic dismissal.
Then they will kidnap 200 school girls and demand more money
ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
Honest answer, if I ran a business and my workers had damaged it whilst striking, I'd revoke the offer. Offer them 10% pay deduction, plus garnishee order for the repair of all damage.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
NUMSA REFUTES REPORTS OF END OF STRIKE
Numsa on Thursday denied reports that the strike in the metals and engineering sector was over.
"We view these reports as nothing but an endeavour to sabotage or weaken the well-organised and very strong strike by our members in the engineering or metals sector," the National Union of Metalworkers of SA's (Numsa) spokesman Castro Ngobese said.
He said some media houses were reporting that Labour Minister Mildred Oliphant had brokered a settlement between Numsa and employer bodies, the Steel and Engineering Industries Federation of Southern Africa and the National Employers' Association of SA.
He said there was no deal or agreement the union was aware of.
Numsa members in the metal and engineering industries downed tools on July 1, initially demanding a salary increase of 12 percent, dropped from their pre-strike demand of 15 percent. They also demanded a R1000 housing allowance, and a total ban on labour brokers.
The union announced on Sunday it had lowered its wage demand to 10 percent.
"At the appropriate time Numsa shall publicly announce when such a deal is on the table, after consulting members first," Ngobese said.
Source : Sapa /ns/fg/th/lp
Date : 17 Jul 2014 16:21
Numsa on Thursday denied reports that the strike in the metals and engineering sector was over.
"We view these reports as nothing but an endeavour to sabotage or weaken the well-organised and very strong strike by our members in the engineering or metals sector," the National Union of Metalworkers of SA's (Numsa) spokesman Castro Ngobese said.
He said some media houses were reporting that Labour Minister Mildred Oliphant had brokered a settlement between Numsa and employer bodies, the Steel and Engineering Industries Federation of Southern Africa and the National Employers' Association of SA.
He said there was no deal or agreement the union was aware of.
Numsa members in the metal and engineering industries downed tools on July 1, initially demanding a salary increase of 12 percent, dropped from their pre-strike demand of 15 percent. They also demanded a R1000 housing allowance, and a total ban on labour brokers.
The union announced on Sunday it had lowered its wage demand to 10 percent.
"At the appropriate time Numsa shall publicly announce when such a deal is on the table, after consulting members first," Ngobese said.
Source : Sapa /ns/fg/th/lp
Date : 17 Jul 2014 16:21
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
LABOUR DEPT MOOTS METALS STRIKE SETTLEMENT
A proposal by the department of labour to end the wage strike in the metal sector has been made, the National Union of Metalworkers of SA (Numsa) said on Monday.
"This is a proposal from the department of labour. Employers are meeting today [Monday] to consider it. We expect the proposal to be formally tabled on Tuesday, at a council meeting [between the unions and the employers]," said Numsa president Andrew Chirwa.
The department of labour and the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration (CCMA) were facilitating the talks after negotiation between Numsa and the employer body -- the Steel and Engineering Industries Federation of Southern Africa (Seifsa) -- deadlocked.
Seifsa withdrew its conditional wage offer on Tuesday, after Numsa rejected it.
The conditional final offer was a 10 percent wage increase in 2014, 9.5 percent in 2015, and nine percent in 2016.
Chirwa said once the new wage proposal had been formally tabled the union would consult its members for a mandate to accept or reject the offer.
He described the proposed offer as not being too far from the union wage demands.
Over 200,000 Numsa members in the metal and engineering sector downed tools on July 1, demanding a salary increase of 12 percent, dropped from their pre-strike demand of 15 percent. They also demanded a R1000 housing allowance, and a total ban on labour brokers.
The union announced on July 13 that it had lowered its wage demand to 10 percent.
Chirwa confirmed there was a proposal but did not want to give details.
The National Employers' Association of SA (Neasa), representing the interests of micro businesses, said it rejected the proposed settlement.
"The ministerial team of the department of labour has tabled a settlement proposal further out of reach of [small, medium and micro enterprises]," said CEO Gerhard Papenfus.
"What is particularly disappointing is that the ministerial team proposed a settlement arrangement which may satisfy the trade unions but [will] accelerate job losses in the metal industry."
He said a short-sighted settlement would end the strike but would lead to long-term hardship across the board and would eventually bring about socio-economic instability.
"We urge the unions to look beyond the short-term interests of their members and to act in the long-term interests of the industry, which will bring about more sustainable benefits for everybody," Papenfus said.
He said the new proposal included a three-year agreement with an increase of eight percent for workers on wage rate A in years one and two, a 10 percent increase for wage rates F, G and H for year one, a 10 percent increase in year two for wage rates G and H, an eight percent increase for wage rate A in year three and 10 percent for wage rate H in year three.
Naesa has offered an eight percent wage hike, subject to an agreement on the entry-level wage.
Source : Sapa /mm/jje/ar
Date : 21 Jul 2014 13:45
A proposal by the department of labour to end the wage strike in the metal sector has been made, the National Union of Metalworkers of SA (Numsa) said on Monday.
"This is a proposal from the department of labour. Employers are meeting today [Monday] to consider it. We expect the proposal to be formally tabled on Tuesday, at a council meeting [between the unions and the employers]," said Numsa president Andrew Chirwa.
The department of labour and the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration (CCMA) were facilitating the talks after negotiation between Numsa and the employer body -- the Steel and Engineering Industries Federation of Southern Africa (Seifsa) -- deadlocked.
Seifsa withdrew its conditional wage offer on Tuesday, after Numsa rejected it.
The conditional final offer was a 10 percent wage increase in 2014, 9.5 percent in 2015, and nine percent in 2016.
Chirwa said once the new wage proposal had been formally tabled the union would consult its members for a mandate to accept or reject the offer.
He described the proposed offer as not being too far from the union wage demands.
Over 200,000 Numsa members in the metal and engineering sector downed tools on July 1, demanding a salary increase of 12 percent, dropped from their pre-strike demand of 15 percent. They also demanded a R1000 housing allowance, and a total ban on labour brokers.
The union announced on July 13 that it had lowered its wage demand to 10 percent.
Chirwa confirmed there was a proposal but did not want to give details.
The National Employers' Association of SA (Neasa), representing the interests of micro businesses, said it rejected the proposed settlement.
"The ministerial team of the department of labour has tabled a settlement proposal further out of reach of [small, medium and micro enterprises]," said CEO Gerhard Papenfus.
"What is particularly disappointing is that the ministerial team proposed a settlement arrangement which may satisfy the trade unions but [will] accelerate job losses in the metal industry."
He said a short-sighted settlement would end the strike but would lead to long-term hardship across the board and would eventually bring about socio-economic instability.
"We urge the unions to look beyond the short-term interests of their members and to act in the long-term interests of the industry, which will bring about more sustainable benefits for everybody," Papenfus said.
He said the new proposal included a three-year agreement with an increase of eight percent for workers on wage rate A in years one and two, a 10 percent increase for wage rates F, G and H for year one, a 10 percent increase in year two for wage rates G and H, an eight percent increase for wage rate A in year three and 10 percent for wage rate H in year three.
Naesa has offered an eight percent wage hike, subject to an agreement on the entry-level wage.
Source : Sapa /mm/jje/ar
Date : 21 Jul 2014 13:45
ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
The Labour Dept is jumping the gun as always.
NEASA has rejected the offer apparently.
NEASA has rejected the offer apparently.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
12:23:14 Mon, Jul 28, 2014 -Unconfirmed: News from our striking informants, strike is over and everything will go back to normal from tomorrow, groups have been told to go home - Press Release by 2PM today, seems like all strikers has left the areas, hopefully all will be back to normal by tomorrow.
https://www.facebook.com/albcl?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/albcl?fref=ts
Mila
Honorary Master
http://www.fin24.com/Economy/Labour/News/Numsas-Jim-hints-at-new-strike-deal-move-20140728
Numsa's Jim hints at new strike deal move
Numsa's Jim hints at new strike deal move
Mila
Honorary Master
Any news on the press briefing?
I can't find anything.
I can't find anything.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
No announcement yet.... Live feed here....
http://www.africanewsaddict.com/art...riefing-on-the-wage-offer-in-the-metal-sector
Mila
Honorary Master
bla bla bla Rex... waffle waffle waffle.
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That is what my company did, subtract damage caused due to lost tools or negligence from their pay. We had zero incidents after this was implemented, if they do not like it then they won't find their contracts renewed.