Occupation date on registration

tRoN said:
Why doesn't your friend just stay over in the existing place he is in. He can pay the rent prorata
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Becuase he will be paying the bond for the new house he's just bought and not living in as well as the the rent of the old place.

The entire point to of occupational rent is to avoid this.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Becuase he will be paying the bond for the new house he's just bought and not living in as well as the the rent of the old place.

The entire point to of occupational rent is to avoid this.
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Yes it was already discussed he should ask for the occupational rent from the seller but the friend was worried he will be on the street with his furniture which is what my point was about.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Has the registration actually taken place?

It's not clear from the posts.

If it was agreed in OTP as stated above then the seller guaranteed it to be vacant upon registration.

If registration has taken place then the seller is in breach of contract.
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Yes it was started in OTP that he wants to move in on registration
 
SauRoNZA said:
Has the registration actually taken place?

It's not clear from the posts.

If it was agreed in OTP as stated above then the seller guaranteed it to be vacant upon registration.

If registration has taken place then the seller is in breach of contract.
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And test registration has been completed
 
SauRoNZA said:
Becuase he will be paying the bond for the new house he's just bought and not living in as well as the the rent of the old place.

The entire point to of occupational rent is to avoid this.
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Plus the new tenant must move in...
 
infscrtyrisk said:
Through the years I have discovered that the best (legal) way to inconvenience a delinquent tenant is to renovate... just saying :whistle:
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Only if there is no restraining order against you. My poor seller had legal hell from his tenant and he could not even get access to the property to fix a wooden gate the tenant had removed. Every neighbour I spoke to backed the seller with real facts about the situation (always three sides to a story).

Also don't believe urban legends, a tenant has more rights than what you think.
 
cbrunsdonza said:
Only if there is no restraining order against you. My poor seller had legal hell from his tenant and he could not even get access to the property to fix a wooden gate the tenant had removed. Every neighbour I spoke to backed the seller with real facts about the situation (always three sides to a story).

Also don't believe urban legends, a tenant has more rights than what you think.
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If you actually bother to read the thread, I have stated that tenants have the most rights.

That does not mean that they may unreasonably deny the landlord access to the premises, especially if it is for the purpose of maintaining the premises in a tenantable state. So if I arrange to visit for inspection, or carry out maintenance, that is my prerogative. And If I decide to remove some (or all of) the doors (cupboards, room doors, toilet doors) in order to refurbish them offsite, then so be it. The law requires the property to be habitable. As long as I do not remove the perimeter doors, then I am within my rights. And if my worker bought the wrong paint, and I do not have any more money to buy the correct paint (for some strange reason (perhaps a tenant did not pay me) I am a little short this month), then I am within my rights.

If I choose to install fiber, and warn the (non-paying) tenant that it will make a lot of dust, and use the services of a Zimbabwean armed with an angle grinder to cut channels in the plaster, then if the tenant does not bother to cover his/her equipment and furniture, there will be a slight inconvenience.

If I decide the replace the toilet / bath / washbasin / stove, and remove the existing one, but the replacement was purchased through Aliexpress, and I provide a well-worn bucket / portable stoveplate (that keeps tripping the lights), or make an arrangement that the (non-paying) tenant can use the neighbour's bathroom while we wait, then I am within my rights as a landlord.

There are plenty other scenarios, which can legally be executed. Bear in mind that a reasonable landlord, with a regular paying tenant will never consider the above (in fact, he/she will actually delay inconveniencing the tenant), but a delinquent tenant who thinks that everything will just go his own way is in for a surprise.
  • You don't pay your electricity, it gets cut;
  • You don't pay your car installment, it gets repossessed; and
  • You don't pay your cellphone bill, :erm:no more looky-looky on pornhub .
Why should not paying a landlord be any different? Landlords have bills to pay and commitments to meet. Habitually delinquent tenants need to reform and catch a wake-up. Within the context of the OP's thread, this includes tenants (and previous owners) who think that they can go through life with no consequences. There is only one Khulubuse Zuma, and even he realised it.
 
infscrtyrisk said:
If you actually bother to read the thread, I have stated that tenants have the most rights.

That does not mean that they may unreasonably deny the landlord access to the premises, especially if it is for the purpose of maintaining the premises in a tenantable state. So if I arrange to visit for inspection, or carry out maintenance, that is my prerogative. And If I decide to remove some (or all of) the doors (cupboards, room doors, toilet doors) in order to refurbish them offsite, then so be it. The law requires the property to be habitable. As long as I do not remove the perimeter doors, then I am within my rights. And if my worker bought the wrong paint, and I do not have any more money to buy the correct paint (for some strange reason (perhaps a tenant did not pay me) I am a little short this month), then I am within my rights.

If I choose to install fiber, and warn the (non-paying) tenant that it will make a lot of dust, and use the services of a Zimbabwean armed with an angle grinder to cut channels in the plaster, then if the tenant does not bother to cover his/her equipment and furniture, there will be a slight inconvenience.

If I decide the replace the toilet / bath / washbasin / stove, and remove the existing one, but the replacement was purchased through Aliexpress, and I provide a well-worn bucket / portable stoveplate (that keeps tripping the lights), or make an arrangement that the (non-paying) tenant can use the neighbour's bathroom while we wait, then I am within my rights as a landlord.

There are plenty other scenarios, which can legally be executed. Bear in mind that a reasonable landlord, with a regular paying tenant will never consider the above (in fact, he/she will actually delay inconveniencing the tenant), but a delinquent tenant who thinks that everything will just go his own way is in for a surprise.
  • You don't pay your electricity, it gets cut;
  • You don't pay your car installment, it gets repossessed; and
  • You don't pay your cellphone bill, :erm:no more looky-looky on pornhub .
Why should not paying a landlord be any different? Landlords have bills to pay and commitments to meet. Habitually delinquent tenants need to reform and catch a wake-up. Within the context of the OP's thread, this includes tenants (and previous owners) who think that they can go through life with no consequences. There is only one Khulubuse Zuma, and even he realised it.
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if i was a delinquent tenant I would say you can come on the weekend as I am not taking anytime off. I would also schedule that weekend 6 months down the road due to work commitments, family obligations, whatever reasons I can think of as all the excuses you made are not urgent and could wait.

a rental tribunal would find against you as it would be obvious that you are trying to exact revenge.

disclaimer - I sympathise with a landlord in this situation but follow the correct channels.
 
With a smile, my friend moved in on the 1/09/17 just after 11 am. The tenant was still moving out. She ordered the tenant to remove all belongings off her property. Tenant had to quickly move out as the new owner wanted to occupy the property....
 
Hi

i am currently facing a similar problem, my agent wants me to sign happy papers for the house but the transfer is not done yet, they are saying after the house is build they can only give it security for 7days which i do not understand as its not eveb in my name as yet. i think they want to force me into occupational rent, can they do that if the transfer is not done as yet?
 
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