Odometer correction

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burn said:
Why does your friend think it is justified to change the odometer when putting in a new motor? The distance covered impacts many parts on a car, not just the motor.
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Fazda said:
A con artist will justify anything!! ;)
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To be quite honest, he is actually quite a conman. I don't even know why I call him my "friend" because I try and avoid him whenever I can :D
 
I know a dealer did it on my Polo, I only found out at the beginning of the year after taking it to VW and they like oh you here for your 190k I am like yeah and she's like okay well you've been absent for awhile showing me the logs and it hit the mileage I bought the car at a year before I bought the car, and there was an additional entry.
Wish I could've approached the place I bought it from and moan but it was three years too late, in future I will definitely check with the OEM dealers.
 
Fazda said:
It's illegal - no matter what spin you want to put on it.

I have heard that you can also do it with newer electronic speedos as well, so just be careful out there - if a mileage looks suspiciously low, when compared with the rest of the car, it possibly is!
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I don't agree ... Until I started my new job, I had a '05 gold 1.4i with like 85k on the clock as the car was only used to work and back and it was like a 10min drive (with the occasional long trips)

Now it's on 106k since June ... lol ...


Just make sure the car has FSH before buying that way the mileage can be checked
 
on carte blanche the dude bought it for 70k iirc. he cant even be arrested here for doing it. that's what they said on the program anyways. he was doing 2-3 at least a day. 2.5k a pop. its the way he makes his living.
 
I own a BMW which had its engine completely replaced (warranty). I asked them why they did not reset the odometer and they told they were not allowed to.

I believe the only way you can reset an odometer is by completely rebuilding the entire car.
 
Friend of mine's girlfriend's dad had an Audi dealership in Mpumalanga. Needless to say, she drove an Audi. She went home for holiday and drove down with an A3, but the speedometer and odometer was not working. She said it was disconnected for the trip to save mileage :eek: :erm:
 
cant believe people still watch that mickey mouse carte blanche still?
 
Slootvreter said:
Friend of mine's girlfriend's dad had an Audi dealership in Mpumalanga. Needless to say, she drove an Audi. She went home for holiday and drove down with an A3, but the speedometer and odometer was not working. She said it was disconnected for the trip to save mileage :eek: :erm:
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This happens more often than you would think.

A friend of mine's dad used to do this to his cars back in the day when you just had to remove the speedo cable from the gearbox to achieve this.
 
In the days of mechanical odometers, the only way, apart from disassembling the device, would be to rotate the gear anti-clockwise. With electronic odometers it is much easier. With an OBD-II device and the right software, you can do it in a minute
 
I once had to replace my BMW instrument cluster and they programmed the new cluster to have the same km as the old one. I was told that the km's are stored in about 3 different locations, so you can still see if the cluster km's were altered. Apparently if the cluster reading differs a lot from the other 2 readings they know it has been altered. I don't know how accurate this is, I was just told that.
 
I know of a company in JHB that dealers take the cars to to reduce odometer readings. Real Dodge. They see 10 - 15 cars a day from you old jolopy to BMW 7 series
 
SlowInternet said:
I once had to replace my BMW instrument cluster and they programmed the new cluster to have the same km as the old one. I was told that the km's are stored in about 3 different locations, so you can still see if the cluster km's were altered. Apparently if the cluster reading differs a lot from the other 2 readings they know it has been altered. I don't know how accurate this is, I was just told that.
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Its actually stored mainly in 2 places the cluster and a box underneath there. Its also stores in a 1000 other sensors like brake sensor etc which do not have an impact on the vehicle
 
The old days:
Use a drill to turn back the speedometer.

The modern way:
Via OBD-II. The instrument cluster on some cars contains an EEPROM that can only be incremented. The chip is designed this way, the most notable manufacturer of this chip is ST Microelectronics. On simpler cars it might be easy to replace the chip with a pre-programmed one and then do the OBD-II trick. I suspect these chips are used in cheaper vehicles where the ECU doesn't care for the mileage. I haven't spent a lot of time on this but next year I might have to do a lot of R&D in this field.
 
When I got my OBD-II device, I was playing with it plugged into the shop's Renault Kango. You could have set the odometer to 000000 if you'd wanted to
 
Every manufacturer does things differently... you can get a serious headache trying to work out the differences and this is why the tools cost many thousands...
 
I was always under the impression that the electronic ones are harder to reset - even more some on VAG cars?
 
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