Offer to purchase question

Napalm2880

Expert Member
Joined
Mar 8, 2007
Messages
2,931
So for the first time in my existence I have started thinking about buying a house.

I just got moedeloos now the moment I started doing a search on Property24. It is like looking through a dumpster.

Agents make me sick. Next to lawyers. Yuck.

Is there a better platform to search on?

Maybe even one that does not involve these..... I don't know what you call them. Specially Remax, Seeff, Pam Golding... Don't want any of those things.

Maybe a website dedicated to only very specific agents or direct home owners.
 

muisnes

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 27, 2018
Messages
652
Deeds Office Cape Town is going back to 30% staff from next week, so be prepared for delays.
Clearance figures was paid today.

Guess I'm playing some hurry up and wait between the muni and Deeds Office.
 

Caldo

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 30, 2014
Messages
663
Got word today that my transfer has been lodged at the Joburg Office.

I will give a full date account of the time line once registered.

Now it is the wait for 2 weeks and praying no Covid closures come up.
 

The Darkness

Expert Member
Joined
Sep 25, 2018
Messages
2,659
guys, if a property being sold has multiple agents selling it, are there any criteria for choosing which agent to use?
 

Steamy Tom

Executive Member
Joined
Jan 23, 2019
Messages
8,368
guys, if a property being sold has multiple agents selling it, are there any criteria for choosing which agent to use?

Not really, pick one based on your or others experience. Also if you see the house with one agent or were directed to that house by an agent, stick with that agent, do not jump between agents for the same property.

Personally I would tend to stick with a smaller agency that is known in the area
 

Marsie27

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 21, 2014
Messages
800
guys, if a property being sold has multiple agents selling it, are there any criteria for choosing which agent to use?
The one who first 'introduced' the property to you would normally claim the rights to commission, unless they have done a deal with other agent/s. If you haven't been shown the property already, then I imagine you could pick and choose.
 

muisnes

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 27, 2018
Messages
652
guys, if a property being sold has multiple agents selling it, are there any criteria for choosing which agent to use?
The non-franchised agencies have much more leeway in lowering their commission. Choose one of these (or at least one where the agent is also the principal of the agency) and negotiate a lower price due to a reduction in commission.
 

bokka1

Expert Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2006
Messages
4,404
The non-franchised agencies have much more leeway in lowering their commission. Choose one of these (or at least one where the agent is also the principal of the agency) and negotiate a lower price due to a reduction in commission.
This is the best advice.
 

Caldo

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 30, 2014
Messages
663
Old Property
4-Nov-2020 - Listed
08-Feb-2021 - Unsuccess OTP
08-Apr-2021 - Successful OTP (Cash Buy)
Attorneys was messing around CoJ certificate process
31-May-2021 - Lodged
08-Jun-2021 - On Prep
11-Jun-2021 - Registered

New Property
22-Mar-2021 - Listed
29-Apr-2021 - Signed OTP at 91% of asking price
04-May-2021 - Signed counter offer by seller at 95%.
12-May-2021 - Bank granted the bond
25-May-2021 - Signed with Transfer Attorney
15-Jun-2021 - Signed with Bond Attorney
29-Jun-2021 - Bond proceed finalised
02-Jul-2021 - Lodged
16-Jul-2021 - ***Expected registration***
 

Aeryn23

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 20, 2021
Messages
178
We experienced an interesting situation yesterday. Went to view a property with some nice extra features including a load shedding back up system.

The house was originally on the market for just under R3 mil, listed at the beginning of May. There has been a lot of interest and viewings but no offers yet. Seller then dropped the price to R2.7mil a week or two ago.

My husband asked the agent about the load shedding back up system. The agent told us that the seller has decided to remove that from the house sale, because he had to lower the price. This seems a bit odd to me - the house was already not selling at the current price with the original listed features (including the load shedding back up). Now, the seller dropped the price and removed one of the attractive features.
 
Last edited:

zerocool2009

Executive Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2009
Messages
8,832
We experienced an interesting situation yesterday. Went to view a property with some nice extra features including a load shedding back up system.

The house was originally on the market for just under R3 mil, listed at the beginning of May. There has been a lot of interest and viewings but no offers yet. Seller then dropped the price to R2.7mil a week or two ago.

My husband asked the agent about the load shedding back up system. The agent told us that the seller has decided to remove that from the house sale, because he had to lower the price. This seems a bit odd to me - the house was already not selling at the current price with the original listed features (including the load shedding back up). Now, the seller dropped the price and removed one of the attractive features.

Its the sellers choice, if not listed in the OTP, it can be taken out. Thats how I see it

Personally drop your offer with R250k
 

requiem

Expert Member
Joined
May 10, 2009
Messages
4,048
I think sellers are all crazy. Pricing properties way above what anyone will offer and then have it market for months with no offers...

I especially enjoy going to see houses priced at R3m which were bought by the current seller for R1.1m to 1.4m just a year or two ago
 

beefymoocow

Expert Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2006
Messages
1,353
I think sellers are all crazy. Pricing properties way above what anyone will offer and then have it market for months with no offers...

I especially enjoy going to see houses priced at R3m which were bought by the current seller for R1.1m to 1.4m just a year or two ago

I enjoy when they realised after a year their pricing is too high and drop the price.

And they just don’t realise the opportunity cost of the levies saved or interest saving if they sold the property earlier.
 

bokka1

Expert Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2006
Messages
4,404
I think sellers are all crazy. Pricing properties way above what anyone will offer and then have it market for months with no offers...

I especially enjoy going to see houses priced at R3m which were bought by the current seller for R1.1m to 1.4m just a year or two ago
Sellers don't want to listen to experienced agents when they valuate their properties.

Buyers are not stupid, they know when a house is overpriced.
 

APoc184

Honorary Master
Joined
Sep 6, 2008
Messages
24,668
Sellers don't want to listen to experienced agents when they valuate their properties.

Buyers are not stupid, they know when a house is overpriced.

Hehe. Indeed.

When we started searching there were some real shockers.

And some people believe as long as it is in the right area they can charge the going rate even if the house itself is falling apart.

For instance. We went to view a 3 bed, 2 bath house with a flatlet on the property. Was listed for R1.3m. Lot lower than the area rate for the same type of property so we went to view it with the mindset that the place will need quite a bit of work.

Should have gotten back in the car and drove away when the agent arrived, saw we were kinda decent people and asked if we are sure we want to view the property.

The house was literally just a shell. Only the outside was brick and mortar. Inside was just dry walling. No ceilings, nothing. It looked like an office with cubicles.
Apart from the sink, the kitchen was loose standing cabinets. A two plate gas stove and one of those convection ovens.
Only the front and back door had handles. Some rooms didn't even have doors.
We didn't even get as far as the bathrooms before we left.

On our way out we just queried the flatlet on the listing. Turns out it was one side of the double garage turned into a living space. So it was a single garage sized room. And the wall to the outside toilet was broken out for access to a toilet. No shower, bath or sink.

That was our biggest WTF viewing although there were similar types but not as bad as this one.

Seller kept insisting the price is right because it is in a great suburb, close to schools, blah blah blah...

Wife saw a few months ago that it sold for R700k eventually. We drove past just for interest sake and saw the whole house was bulldozed and pretty much an empty lot now. Guessing the buyer would like to build something proper there.
 

TechGirl04

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2018
Messages
340
Any advice on what to look out for on the plans? We are looking at houses in an older area. Most have been renovated. We want to make sure we are not taken for a ride by additions not being on the approved plans.

I've made a list of the following so far:
- make sure swimming pool is on plans, especially if it's new.
- any extensions to the house
- carports? Do carports need to be on the plans?
- internal wall changes?
- if the garage has been converted to a living area, should it be specified as such?
 

The_Mowgs

Honorary Master
Joined
Nov 23, 2009
Messages
17,910
Any advice on what to look out for on the plans? We are looking at houses in an older area. Most have been renovated. We want to make sure we are not taken for a ride by additions not being on the approved plans.

I've made a list of the following so far:
- make sure swimming pool is on plans, especially if it's new.
- any extensions to the house
- carports? Do carports need to be on the plans?
- internal wall changes?
- if the garage has been converted to a living area, should it be specified as such?
Yes for everything. Dont just ask for plans, they need to be approved and stamped by die building department.

I befriended the city's building inspector and he came with me to the house, with the plans to check everything.
 

TechGirl04

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2018
Messages
340
Yes for everything. Dont just ask for plans, they need to be approved and stamped by die building department.

I befriended the city's building inspector and he came with me to the house, with the plans to check everything.

Thanks, yes we have asked for plans on a few houses we were interested in. Strangely, the agents and sellers seem surprised when we ask for plans. Often the agents haven't seen them and need to scramble to get them. I would think agents would ask the seller upfront about this.

Anyway, one seller gave us the architects plans and not approved council plans. Swimming pool wasn't on, garage was still specified as a garage even though it was converted to a room. The best was a different seller who also gave us architects plans with the swimming pool and outside entertainment area roof roughly drawn on in pencil lol.
 
Top