I dont get the "camper", "noob" issue, from what i can see there are two types of players, 1: the headless bouncer that sprints around knifing and spraying thousands of bullets and toobs as if the world is about to end, 2: the super overly cautious player who treats every life as if it were real, who would prefer to place themselve in the shadows than run around out in the open, why do both players want each other to play as they do, calling each other names like"camper" and "toobnoob" is pointless and annoying for other players, each player should be able to play the game how they want to play it, without annoying one liners from other players crying about their opponents game style! If you paid my internet and phone line and bought me the game and a gaming pc to play it on then id play how you want me to play, but until then