Old secondhand car vs newish 2nd hand car

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Hey guys

Me and my boyfriend are planning on getting a car but we seem to be logging heads when it comes to choosing a car to get. I want to get this Kia Rio since it seems perfect but he seems to want us to get a car worth between R40k - R80k with a mileage more than 100000km. I'm afraid if we get such an old car it will give us problems in the future which will need us to fix it, which means more money for it which we could've have used to buy the car I want. Am I being unreasonable?

Plus I want to get an automatic car (the traffic from Midrand to Roodepoort after work makes me want to say no to a manual car)

What I want: http://www.autotrader.co.za/used-cars/kia/rio/2012-kia-rio-1-4-automatic-lady-owner-spotless-condition-balance-of-full-comprehensive-warranty-randburg-fpa-8a8183204a5f32e9014ab0fe739b0f0b/makemodel/make/kia/model/rio/bodytype/hatchback/transmissiontype/automatic

What he wants: http://www.cars.co.za/viewVehicle.php?VID=957096&car_for_sale=Ford-Fiesta-1.6-Tdci-Trend-5dr-2007
 
I'd take the Kia without any hesitation IF you can afford the repayments and insurance.


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The mileage on that Ford is pretty high. And those little Turbo Diesels are usually driven quite hard.

If the turbo goes it will not be cheap.
 
APoc184 said:
The mileage on that Ford is pretty high. And those little Turbo Diesels are usually driven quite hard.

If the turbo goes it will not be cheap.
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Turbo exchange < R5K for a reconditioned turbo , fitted.
 
The Rio but the 2 cars are 100k apart maybe meet in the middle.
 
He has the right idea but just needs to find one with lower mileage
 
Hard to answer this without understanding the reasoning behind why the two you are on such opposite extremes of the spectrum.

The Rio is obviously better in all aspects, but costs double the price of the Fiesta.
 
Maverick Jester said:
Hard to answer this without understanding the reasoning behind why the two you are on such opposite extremes of the spectrum.

The Rio is obviously better in all aspects, but costs double the price of the Fiesta.
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I want the Rio because it's an automatic, the specs look awesome... He wants a cheap car because it's cheap...
 
goth_nerd said:
I want the Rio because it's an automatic, the specs look awesome... He wants a cheap car because it's cheap...
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First question, what is your budget like? Can you comfortably afford the repayments of the Kia for the entire duration of the loan? If either of you don't have decent job security then I would honestly think twice.
 
Both are reasonable buys within their respective price ranges (though the Ford's mileage is a little risky for my taste).

You'll need to sit down and decide what you can comfortably afford.
 
goth_nerd said:
I want the Rio because it's an automatic, the specs look awesome... He wants a cheap car because it's cheap...
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That's not a good reason to buy a car, ever. The mileage on that Fiesta is crazy high, and it being a turbodiesel is just asking for trouble.

Can you afford the repayments, as well as insurance, on the Rio? If so, you shouldn't even be contemplating the Fiesta.
 
Maverick Jester said:
That's not a good reason to buy a car, ever. The mileage on that Fiesta is crazy high, and it being a turbodiesel is just asking for trouble.

Can you afford the repayments, as well as insurance, on the Rio? If so, you shouldn't even be contemplating the Fiesta.
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True, though if the Fiesta was, say, a medium mileage Honda Jazz/Civic things would be a lot harder. Pay for the Civic cash, then pump the rest into a savings pocket for a second car (since I assume thing first one will be shared from the working on her post?).
 
You need to do two things before you buy anything.

First, go test drive both cars. It is very important that you test drive the automatic Kia Rio, because being an automatic means it will be more sluggish than the manual. Is that 1.4 engine with an automatic gearbox going to be enough for you?

Second, work out the finances on both. Let's say you find a car with less mileage for R80k rather than R160k. Work out what your monthly repayments will be, and what your monthly repayments will be on a loan of R160k. What could you do every month with the difference?
 
TehStranger said:
True, though if the Fiesta was, say, a medium mileage Honda Jazz/Civic things would be a lot harder. Pay for the Civic cash, then pump the rest into a savings pocket for a second car (since I assume thing first one will be shared from the working on her post?).
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Agreed.
 
goth_nerd said:
Me and my boyfriend are planning on getting a car [/URL]
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First of all, who is paying for it?
Can the person paying afford it if they were single?
Buying something with a boyfriend/girlfriend is never a good idea.
 
Maverick Jester said:
That's not a good reason to buy a car, ever. The mileage on that Fiesta is crazy high, and it being a turbodiesel is just asking for trouble.

Can you afford the repayments, as well as insurance, on the Rio? If so, you shouldn't even be contemplating the Fiesta.
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My car has just under 250 000K's and it drives like its brand new.
 
goth_nerd said:
Hey guys

Me and my boyfriend are planning on getting a car but we seem to be logging heads when it comes to choosing a car to get. I want to get this Kia Rio since it seems perfect but he seems to want us to get a car worth between R40k - R80k with a mileage more than 100000km. I'm afraid if we get such an old car it will give us problems in the future which will need us to fix it, which means more money for it which we could've have used to buy the car I want. Am I being unreasonable?

Plus I want to get an automatic car (the traffic from Midrand to Roodepoort after work makes me want to say no to a manual car)

What I want: http://www.autotrader.co.za/used-cars/kia/rio/2012-kia-rio-1-4-automatic-lady-owner-spotless-condition-balance-of-full-comprehensive-warranty-randburg-fpa-8a8183204a5f32e9014ab0fe739b0f0b/makemodel/make/kia/model/rio/bodytype/hatchback/transmissiontype/automatic

What he wants: http://www.cars.co.za/viewVehicle.php?VID=957096&car_for_sale=Ford-Fiesta-1.6-Tdci-Trend-5dr-2007
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It's simple actually:

He wants more car for his money and you want a newer car. Nothing wrong with any of your view points. It mainly depends on your needs. Personally I would also go for more car as opposed to newer.

Edit:

Only saw your links now. He's a retard. You need a new Boyfriend tbh :D

Rio wins this hands down...

Edit2:
Since I suppose you will show him this thread, I was joking about being a retard :p He wants a cheaper car but that is way to cheap. I thought more along something bigger in the same price range as the Rio. You get awesome cars in that bracket. A forester maybe?
Example:
http://www.autotrader.co.za/used-ca...ndcommercialpricerangeszar/125-000-to-149-999
 
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Rickster said:
My car has just under 250 000K's and it drives like its brand new.
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How many of those kilometres did you put on? And is your car a turbodiesel with an unknown service history?

The Fiesta is a bad idea, especially for the price. You could get a Hyundai Accent or previous model Kia Rio for the same or less, with lower mileage to boot.
 
Maverick Jester said:
How many of those kilometres did you put on? And is your car a turbodiesel with an unknown service history?

The Fiesta is a bad idea, especially for the price. You could get a Hyundai Accent or previous model Kia Rio for the same or less, with lower mileage to boot.
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I put about 20K Km's on the clock. But yea, if it has a turbo and tinted windows. It was probably thrashed.
 
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