Olympic record doesn't help SA Hockey

South Africa have had hockey representation at every Olympics since 1996, but this year SASCOC has decided that they won't be sending a side to Brazil in 2016.
Even though they are the best in Africa? :wtf:
 
http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/South-Africa/olympic-record-doesnt-help-sa-hockey-20151218

So even after winning the All Africa competition, the SA men and women hockey teams are not allowed to go to the Olympics. Oh, the hypocrisy. The U23 Mens soccer team finish third in the CAF U23, also won't win a medal, but they are allowed to go to the Olympics.

There is no international qualifying avenue for soccer so the Top 3 teams in the continental tournament go through to the Olympics. If they hadn't finished 3rd, they wouldn't have made it.

Don't embarrass yourself like Mortymoose.
 
There is no international qualifying avenue for soccer so the Top 3 teams in the continental tournament go through to the Olympics. If they hadn't finished 3rd, they wouldn't have made it.

Don't embarrass yourself like Mortymoose.

There is no international qualifying avenue for hockey so the top team in the continental competition DON'T go through to the Olympics.

Do you now also not understand?
 
There is no international qualifying avenue for hockey so the top team in the continental competition DON'T go through to the Olympics.

Do you now also not understand?

Umm hockey is based on world Olympic qualification, the World Hockey League.

You seem to be the one failing to understand.
 
There is no international qualifying avenue for soccer so the Top 3 teams in the continental tournament go through to the Olympics. If they hadn't finished 3rd, they wouldn't have made it.

Don't embarrass yourself like Mortymoose.

You're the one with omelet on their face...

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_hockey_at_the_2016_Summer_Olympics

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Why is there omelette on my face? I said they wouldn't be using the continental qualification for hockey and would use the world hockey league. :confused:

And that there's no international qualification for soccer which is why they're using continental qualification.

I didn't make the rules.

Why's everyone looking for an argument?

Because it's the same as SAFA saying they're not gonna use the U23 African tournament for qualification. His point was that SASCOC are handling some sports different and unfairly compared to others.
 
Because it's the same as SAFA saying they're not gonna use the U23 African tournament for qualification. His point was that SASCOC are handling some sports different and unfairly compared to others.

Not really. If there was an international competition for soccer Olympic qualification they would probably have used that. But there isn't so they had to use a continental competition.

The hockey world league specifically states that it's used for Olympic qualification.
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Not really. If there was an international competition for soccer Olympic qualification they would probably have used that. But there isn't so they had to use a continental competition.

And there was an official qualifying tournament for hockey, which SASCOC decided was invalid for some reason.

I'm not sure which part of unfair treatment you do not understand.
 
And there was an official qualifying tournament for hockey, which SASCOC decided was invalid for some reason.

I'm not sure which part of unfair treatment you do not understand.

Where did I say it wasn't unfair? :confused: Stop arguing.
 
Start an argument, then tell others to stop arguing. Clever.

But I'm not arguing. I was just stating the qualifying criteria that was laid out. :confused: I have no personal interest in the Olympics to argue about any of this. Re-read the posts and you'll see who the arguments are coming from.
 
/phones Ireland :twisted:

:D

I don't even care about the Olympics.

Also, the u23 team initially had to actually win the competition but they were allowed to progress in 3rd place so that could be seen as unfair.
 
:D

I don't even care about the Olympics.

Also, the u23 team initially had to actually win the competition but they were allowed to progress in 3rd place so that could be seen as unfair.

For me it is about participation and not necessarily the guarantee of winning a medal.

If they take away this, the pinnacle of most athletes' ambition, then what do future athletes have to aspire to? Why bother playing any sport unless you are in the top 3 in the world?

The spirit of the Olympic Games has been abused by SASCOC. They have shattered the dreams of hundreds of current sportsmen and women and thousands of prospective future participants.

Sorry to say that I have zero confidence in SASCOC and our lame duck sport ministry. They should hang their heads in shame and piss off.

Yet they will not... come next year you will see a non-participatory contingent that will be double the size of the number of athletes participating. The former will fly first class and stay in the top hotels while the latter will fly cattle class and be lodged in the Olympic village.
 
But I'm not arguing. I was just stating the qualifying criteria that was laid out. :confused: I have no personal interest in the Olympics to argue about any of this. Re-read the posts and you'll see who the arguments are coming from.

But you are arguing.
 
Many of you are "commenting" about this the wrong way.

Yes, there are certain rules that govern the qualification process ... but just because those rules exist doesn't mean that they are fair.

As a matter of fact they are often quite ****ed up when African administrators are involved.
 
Another one: http://www.insidethegames.biz/artic...ugby-sevens-places-is-step-in-wrong-direction

Imagine securing a place at the Olympic Games only to have it snatched away from you by the organisation that are ultimately supposed to aid and help the development of sport in your country.

After all, for most people, it simply doesn’t get much better than representing your nation on the Olympic stage.

With that in mind, it’s no wonder heads are being scratched amid strong voices of dissent in South Africa after the country's National Olympic Committee refused to send their men’s and women’s hockey teams, as well as the women’s rugby sevens side, to Rio 2016 due to the fact that they each failed to qualify through the highest-level route available to them.

All three booked their ticket to Rio de Janeiro, which will be the first South American city in history to stage the Games, by winning their respective African Championships. Usually, that is enough.

But not for South African Sports Confederation and Olympic Committee (SASCOC), who are maintaining their harsh stance on a matter which has caused widespread debate in Africa and beyond.

The line being touted by SASCOC chief executive Tubby Reddy, who holds the same position within the Durban 2022 Commonwealth Games Organising Committee, is one of arrogance. He feels the organisation's position is "in line with their policy of producing world-class athletes who will compete at the highest level".

Am I missing something here? For many, there is no higher echelon of sport than the Olympic Games, and by depriving their hockey and women’s sevens teams of a spot at next year’s Games in Rio, they are surely causing much more harm than good.

Of course, Reddy and the SASCOC in general wanted to see their athletes qualify in style, rather than meandering through continental events at which they were always expected to win, but by being so stubborn and obdurate, they are limiting the future development of their athletes and grinding Olympic dreams abruptly to a halt.

Often athletes at the Games perform way beyond expectations as they feast on the energy, fervour and atmosphere around the event itself – a feeling that many South Africa competitors will not get to experience during the summer of 2016.

And what a shame that is. The qualification process is complex and difficult enough for the athletes and to then strip them of their places, which seems overly strict and ultimately detrimental, will do their future career prospects no favours whatsoever.

Read the full article...
 
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