Only Telkom?

[netstrider]

I have been missing from the interwebs for the last couple of years so what was new then is outdated now, but since the advent of Neotel as the so-called "SNO" there still is no alternative to Telkom?

Is there some kind of law against this? For example, what stops Neotel, CellC, Vodacom & other ISP's to roll out their own lines and charge people accordingly. Why, when I want to sign up for uncapped 4MB ADSL do I have to go to OpenWeb for the bandwidth but still remain with Telkom for the line and so forth?

I've seen that some ISP's allow you to pay them for the "Circuit" or such, for example, R399 for 4MB line instead of R413 from Telkom, however I suspect they have some agreement with Telkom and that it is obviously not truly their infrastructure?

So, apart from funding for infrastructure, is there any other reason why telecommunications companies do not offer alternatives to Telkom's lines?

Please help to clarify the situation. I am reading about 100mbit and 1gbit FIBRE being implemented in Durban and thereafter the plan is to go to other cities. Let's say this has already realised, where would we be and would it still be TELKOM's lines, i.o.w who'd be the reseller and who'd own the lines?

Thanks in advance

 

[who.is.michael]

http://www.google.ca/#sclient=psy&h...&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=97dfff1b864bbdfd

 

[netstrider]

Okay, I am aware of this, 13 Africa & JC Broadband, but why did it take so long? Why wasn't this possible during the early 2000's? Also, I found the following on LLU.

On 25 May 2006 the Minister of Communications of South Africa Dr Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri established the Local Loop Unbundling Committee chaired by Professor Tshilidzi Marwala to recommend the appropriate local loop unbundling models. The Local Loop Unbundling Committee submitted a report to Minister Matsepe-Casaburri on 25 May 2007. This report recommends that models that permit customers to access both voice and data be offered by many different companies. The models recommended are Full Unbundling, Line Sharing and Bitstream Access. It is recommended that customers should exercise carrier pre-selection and thus be able to switch between service providers. It is also recommended that an organisation be created to manage the local loop and that this organisation should be under the guidance of the regulator Icasa and that Icasa be capacitated in terms of resources. The committee recommended that service providers approved by Icasa should have access to the telephone exchange infrastructure whenever necessary. The committee recommended that a regulatory guideline be established and be managed by Icasa to guarantee that strategic issues like quality of the local loop be optimised for regulation and delivery of services. Based on this report the Minister has issued policy directives to Icasa to move swiftly with the unbundling process.[15] At the end of March 2010 nothing has happened yet, however a deadline of November 1, 2011 has been set by the Minister of Communications for monopoly holder, Telkom SA to finalise the unbundling process.

Any news on the 1 November 2011 deadline?

 

[grok]

Why wasn't this possible during the early 2000's?

The ANC and their aura of corruption & incompetence.

 

[who.is.michael]

As per an unnamed Telkom official, they are prohibited by the government to release fiber products to consumers, however Neotel, Telkom & DFA's fiber is lying and waiting below a silver / black drain cover near you...

DSL is no longer a viable option. In typical African style, we are waiting and waiting.

 

[Srack0verflow]

government's been too preoccupied deciding which fool to appoint as minister next. and i think they'd want to keep their 39% generating funds uninterrupted for as long as they can

 

[stevenv]

prohibited by the government to release fiber products to consumers

Why the hell would that be?

 

[MickeyD]

As per an unnamed Telkom official, they are prohibited by the government to release fiber products to consumers,

huh???

 

[MickeyD]

I have been missing from the interwebs for the last couple of years so what was new then is outdated now, but since the advent of Neotel as the so-called "SNO" there still is no alternative to Telkom?

Is there some kind of law against this? For example, what stops Neotel, CellC, Vodacom & other ISP's to roll out their own lines and charge people accordingly. Why, when I want to sign up for uncapped 4MB ADSL do I have to go to OpenWeb for the bandwidth but still remain with Telkom for the line and so forth?

I've seen that some ISP's allow you to pay them for the "Circuit" or such, for example, R399 for 4MB line instead of R413 from Telkom, however I suspect they have some agreement with Telkom and that it is obviously not truly their infrastructure?

So, apart from funding for infrastructure, is there any other reason why telecommunications companies do not offer alternatives to Telkom's lines?

Please help to clarify the situation. I am reading about 100mbit and 1gbit FIBRE being implemented in Durban and thereafter the plan is to go to other cities. Let's say this has already realised, where would we be and would it still be TELKOM's lines, i.o.w who'd be the reseller and who'd own the lines?

Thanks in advance

In a nutshell - anyone can provide services to your home but the costs are prohibitive. Hence they are pinning their hopes on LLU, which the DoC has "promised" will commence in November 2011.

At this stage only Telkom are providing residential ADSL services (the physical network side), while other operators are providing broadband via their own wireless networks..