OpenWeb Issues Part 2

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I think by now it is fairly obvious that this has gone beyond a simple customer service issue. There are obviously people on this board who have made it their sole mission in life to discredit certain companies in favour of others.

A complaint was made in one thread and the supplier gave answer. The OP then posted his response and expressed his continued dissatisfaction. To now drag it on any further is stupid and pointless.

The point of this forum is to discuss specific issues relating to ADSL suppliers. But making threads about unspecific instances and "general complaints" is fruitless. Either give specific instances or get out. Bad-mouthing people is just going to give you a bad name on this board.... and highlight your motives at dragging people's name through the mud.

I dont think I have ever posted about Openweb before so I am pretty sure this dramatic post has nothing to do with me.

I made a comment about something I knew to be true at the time and Keoma has addressed it in this thread.

What I do know is that Openweb does need to sort its support out. I think there are more threads started here complaining about their service than there is for Telkomsa and possibly Iburst.

These are not one post wonders and random trolls wanting to jump on a hate wagon for the fun of it. These are legit, longtime respected members of this online community. People whos opinion I trust. Many many members of this forum have had problems with OpenWeb and have moved on. This indicates to me that Openweb does have a problem and does need to address it.

I am happy you have had good service from them and I hope it continues, however your crusade to protect them blindly makes it hard for me to understand your rationality.

When the support issues get fixed the posts will go away. It is really that simple.
 
I haven't had a good experience with OpenWeb and am subsequently not sure whether I will use them in the near future but it needs to be pointed out that Keoma is very keen to resolve the service issues.

That seems quite clear to me since he is posting his cell no. on a forum like this, knowing full well that a lot of users will probably use said number indescriminately.

You have to take your hat off to that, at least.
 
I haven't had a good experience with OpenWeb and am subsequently not sure whether I will use them in the near future but it needs to be pointed out that Keoma is very keen to resolve the service issues.

That seems quite clear to me since he is posting his cell no. on a forum like this, knowing full well that a lot of users will probably use said number indescriminately.

You have to take your hat off to that, at least.

Especially now that even Prepaid has to be registered!!! We know where u live!!:D:D:D
 
I've been using Openweb for a while now, and their service is nothing but brilliant. Haven't had one issue with them. Will keep coming back for more. :D
 
Happy Chappy

Am I the only one that has been happy with OpenWeb's service.
I used them for a few months and not once had an issue.
connectivity was great and at that point the price for uncapped after hours access was great. I never did have one issue.

The only reason I moved to Axxis was due to the fact they offered the same uncapped service for less otherwise I would have remained with OpenWeb.

I think some people have bad luck and if something can go wrong with them it will.

If it wasn't for companies like OpenWeb and Axxis, I'm sure the market place would still be sitting with the same options that telkom offers.

So I say Thank You OpenWeb for being there and working on achieving a better quality of service for all.

Regards
Kind Regards

Wayne
 
This post has put the entire openweb offering in context:

bk.ru bk.ru:

I have a friend who worked for a short time for Openweb. His stories of how support and the company is run would make your hair crawl. Most of the support is done from some young persons house (calls are routed from the number you dial to whatever prepaid phone the new employee has just had installed).

While it is great to work from home, all support still has to be done through Keoma. So if he is out (which he is a lot), the support person becomes a glorified answering machine to a lot (and I mean a lot) of disgrunteled clients.

If there is a problem that needs to be resolved, there is nothing the employee can do but take down the name and number of the person and wait for Keoma to be available.

There is no dedidcated support center and very seldom trained staff. Simple tasks like checking or changing a users password can not be performed.

For my friend it was a complete ballsup. Keoma really needs to sort out his stuff, and actually invest some of his money in creating proper infrastructure.

The reason you have no support, calls not being answered and that kind of thing is because of Keoma`s business practices or rather lack of them.

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I've been with OpenWeb since their first month of service and I've never been disappointed. I'm not sure who your friend is but there's always been somebody competant enought to help me with issues either on their forum (back in the day) or by email. My last issue was in January... my didn't put a payment through (:o) and my account was suspended. Was sorted out quick at the late hours of the night by a support staff member and not Keoma.
 
The sour grapes continue.

I have spoken personally to Keoma... and suffice it to say that the above story does not accurately represent ALL of the facts. The OP demanded the connection to be activated immediately and was fully aware of the cost (in fact he paid up front).

An offer has been made to the OP of a discount for the current month, representing a 50% value on the month, but he has rejected this. He has subesquently refused to pay for the current month's usage either.

He has effectively had six days of uncapped internet or the ability to download more than 120 Gigs (which at current market rates is a value of more than R5000.00) for which he has only paid R1300.00. How much of it he actually used is unknown, but the point remains... he got what he paid for and more.

End of story.
 
This thread is about customer service - the other matter rests with the closed thread.
 
It is not about whether I can understand it. It is about new readers and people who search the web and then stumble onto this thread. If you link to dud content instead of explaining everything in a thread opening post I will close or delete the thread. :)

...and dud threads will spoil myBB's purpose.
 
here you go Mr.BEEP. here are the events as they happened to me :

I got flamed yesterday by a few users, and many people seemed to not understand or got information all mixed up. I would like to straighten the record with facts from my perspective, and also how this all has effected me.

I purchased a uncapped 4mb connection from openweb end of june, it went live on the 27th.

I did not fill in forms or anything, i did the EFT transaction while the sales rep was on the phone,I told him i run a non profit forum and my telkom was going off soon, i need to make a plan for a new connection and their uncapped looks interesting, he said soon as i pay they can connect me immediately. I did the EFT while he was on the phone and told him to check his mail. I did not know of any terms and conditions, i was not told that my connection is only valid for 3 days.

the sales guy told me he would forward my email to the apropeiate guy who needs to activate my account, said the guy was not currently in the office.

I waited and waited, nothing happened, i tried to call back but got an engaged tone all day. so i posted on myBB, i was told by users to be patient, mr beep is sure to come along and see the post. however he didnt, instead i think kollby is his nick, he came along and asked for my details, which i sent to him via PM. he PM'd me back a username and password, said he couldnt get hold of MR. BEEP or whoever was suppose to activate my account so he did it quick himself.

I did not need to click anywhere to activate my account, it was done for me, no red or green writting came up, i was given a username and password via PM on mybb which i entered into my router.

I recieved an email stating that it was a reminder for all clients who have not already paid to pay, if you paid ignore email, it also said if you are on debit order please ignore.

Knowing that i paid i did not worry, but the fact i got activate without going through proper channels bothered me, so i sent an email back saying i paid and they must not double debit me.

Everything worked fine until they cut me off.

At first i assumed it might be telkom, mainly because i had major issues with telkom when the line was first put in and the adsl light was flashing, it is not suppose to.

I checked my mailbox, nothing there, so i call telkom, they say everything is working fine, i dont believe them, but in order to prove them wrong i must first establish that it is in fact them and not isp. so i try and call openweb. can't get through, i tried for 2 hours without success, i sent a few emails too.

2 hours after i got cut off an email came through saying i had been disconnected, that is first time anything made sense to me.

I emailed them back demanding to know why they disconnected me knowing i paid the full ammount and knowing i had reciepts. no reply. i tried to phone, engaged tone... I came onto mybb and some users tried to call as well, also couldnt get through.

I tried for the rest of the day, no success. in meantime my forum had been down most of the day. I have a day job and am stuck at work, i cannot just drop everything and run off to sort things out, best i can do is climb on the phone and post on the net. so here i sit like an idiot and cant do anything except wait for replies that never come.

eventualy friday night, i am not sure of the time, i get reconnected with an email saying that they are still waiting for payment, no sorry's or anything. I sent one back wanting to know why they are claiming double payment. i recieve another email the next day saying they work on calender month and not 30 days.

that is the first time i had ever heard anything about the calender month thing.

anyway, a few more emails go up and down and i am starting to get angry, i tried to reason with them, i explained i honestly didnt know about it, cant they make an axception, i paid alot of money and cannot just afford to fork out a whole months payment just like that, i run a non profit organisation.

they tell me the terms are the terms etc ... and rub me off on the legal department.

I did the only thing i could do, i came here and posted about my bad experience here.

The monday morning i call them, took half the morning to get through, i got through just before lunch i think it was. i was ready to cancel my account, i had already made a topic on mybb which i think was already a few pages big. they suddenly offer me half price discount. i tell them i am sorry, but the service has been poor and i already bought prepaid bandwidth from axxess. please cancel my account before you send me another false bill. they dont argue, dont try and change my mind or anything, just said ok and put the phone down, i was not very happy about that.

that is pretty much it.

now what this has cost me so far.

R1299 + R419 for line rental. the very same month i was also billed by telkom for installation costs and pro rata as well as the previous months line rental and internet fees total : R2038. I paid out a hell of alot of money in one month for a non profit forum to be online. i saw it as a long term investment so i bit the bullet and just did it. but openweb offer me reconnection if i pay them a further R649 ?? and after the bad service i recieved ?? i dont think so. They did not even offer me a refund, no sorry or anything. just pointed me to their legal department ( which btw can only be reached via email. )

Now openweb has screwd me over, R1299 loss that i have to recover from somewhere. i am now having to use prepaid bandwidth till month end as i refuse to sign up with anyone before the last day of the month ( yes they made me paranoid as well. )

My forum had to suffer downtime of 7 hours due to poor service, and now i am forced to move it seperate from patch server due to not having the uncapped connection, downtime estimation : 2 days.

What do i tell my users ? i try and explain to them that our Ex isp was full of crap, but no matter how or what i say, i looked and still look unprofessional due this incedent, as well as all the crap i have to go through this week moving forums around etc ...

I still have recieved no apology and no valid reason ( other than terms are terms and i paid for 3 days access, which they cannot prove to me that they provided the terms in any way ).

This is where i am. i have nothing to hide. I am simply a very unhappy client who got taken for a ride at the worst possible time in the worst possible way. and the isp was not willing to comprosmise in any way shape or form, unless i was willing to pay more money to them.

I recieved poor service, false invoices, and on top of that they tried to debit the bank account of the forum after i told them not to in my reply emails, so i have to cover the costs of that unsucessfull transaction out my pocket as well.

that is my story, no more no less, just the truth.

I never was told about the calendar month thing until after i paid and i got disconnected i got the email a day later. i dont see how they can try and throw that in my face.

few posts ago you said you try and resolve quick as possible ?

i smell bull**** right there...

you can label this post as "a week in hell" , because of your company that is exactly what i had to endure.
 
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here you go Mr.BEEP. here are the events as they happened to me :

few posts ago you said you try and resolve quick as possible ?

i smell bull**** right there...

Ja, I smell it too.. right here.
 
But then you do read the supplier's T&C's before signing anything do you?

If you don't read the fine print before signing a contract, then it's your own fault.

Or am I missing something here?

EDIT : Please keep this discussion civilized.
 
sign what, where ?

i signed nothing. nothing was given to me to sign. please read the post again.

neither did i have to log in to activate my account, so i did not see that screen either as some have pointed out to me that it is written there when you activate your account. my log in details were sent to me via Mybb PM. i put the settings into my router and all worked. I still have the PM, it is sitting in my inbox.
 
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please refrain from insulting me if you are just a third party and dont know anything. i have all the mails to backup my claims.

and i think it is your own top lip you smell ....

so it's OK when you are insulting me or someone else... we're just not allowed to do it to you? is that it? :rolleyes:
 
so it's OK when you are insulting me or someone else... we're just not allowed to do it to you? is that it? :rolleyes:

did i insult you tho ?

i was merely pointing out that you have no clue what you are talking about. and i wouldnt call the lip comment an insult, maybe you really are smelling your top lip. the space between your nose and your top lip arent that far apart.
 
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it was a PM from stormwalker.

that is how my account got activated.

no agreement, no terms presented. just a simple PM with username and password.
 
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