[Opinion] Wal-Mart does so much wrong

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This article makes me think about MassMart and what impact it could have on our economy.

London - There are lots of arguments about why Wal-Mart has been good for the American economy. Almost all are bunk. The jobs it has created are worse than the jobs it killed off in the first place, and the wealth it has created is concentrated in far fewer hands than the wealth it destroyed.

The truth is, no single company is more responsible for the decline of the American middle class and manufacturing industry than Sam Walton's pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap warehouse. And, in turn, nobody is more to blame than Americans themselves.

That the retail giant is stashing billions in offshore tax havens is no shock, even if the extent of its tax avoidance is shocking. A report by Citizens for Tax Justice, a liberal think-tank, claimed this week that Wal-Mart has 78 offshore subsidiaries, including 22 in Luxembourg alone. The assets held in the tiny EU state, real estate and cash, are worth $64bn (£40bn) and “generated” something like $1.3bn in profits just last year. Wal-Mart paid a tax bill there of only $13m, 1 per cent.

Needless to say, despite all of those assets and all of that profit, Wal-Mart doesn't have a single store in Luxembourg. No wonder Luxembourg is so popular with American corporations, and no wonder the standard of living is so high there. Money for old rope.

It should be noted that Wal-Mart disputed the claims, albeit in an opaque manner that served only to fog the issue further. Tellingly, what it did not appear to dispute is that it has 78 offshore subsidiaries - all omitted from its Securities and Exchange Commission filings.

Tax avoidance, even on the grand scale it is done by modern corporations, is common and Wal-Mart is far from alone in its enthusiasm for creating incredibly profitable offshore subsidiaries. Stashing billions of dollars of assets and profits in countries where no other business is conducted might be pushing the ethical envelope but is not illegal. It should be, even if many Americans see avoiding tax and letting others carry the burden as the ultimate act of patriotism.

Meanwhile, EU member states like Luxembourg and the Netherlands (another popular tax haven) are, disgracefully, more than willing participants. The sooner the EU cracks down on this absurd situation, the better.

In spite of it all, Wal-Mart just does what it can get away with. Its employees cost American taxpayers billions in welfare - but that is no different from many companies that pay employees poverty wages. As The Wall Street Journal recently pointed out, the American welfare system acts independently of any employer and Wal-Mart's wages are no worse than those paid by many other employers.

Opponents of Wal-Mart are mistaken if they think anything is going to change any time soon, and they are also mistaken if they believe it is the only company taking advantage of welfare in order to pay its employees less.

Until shopping habits change and better corporate citizenship is demanded by consumers, pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap and stash it abroad is going to remain a common corporate strategy. Wal-Mart might be lots of things, but a crook isn't one of them.

Source | Business Report
 
my disdain for these type of corporations continues to grow. consumerism is low here though. nothing will be done.
 
my disdain for these type of corporations continues to grow. consumerism is low here though. nothing will be done.

But isn't this the expected result of a totally capitalist society and system? It can end in no other way unless there are interventions put in place
 
It's the American dream though. Small business get's huge. Corporate management exploits what laws and loop holes it can in order to keep stock holders happy. South Park covered Walmart perfectly years ago. Walmart (and all corporates) are soulless, money making, machines. You can't hold them responsible for anything. You want cheap stuff but, you're going to pay for it one way or another.
 
But isn't this the expected result of a totally capitalist society and system? It can end in no other way unless there are interventions put in place

Correct. Walmart functions quite well in most of Europe despite strong unions and tax laws. The problem in the US is a political system that runs on private money. Nothing will change before they fix that.
 
But isn't this the expected result of a totally capitalist society and system? It can end in no other way unless there are interventions put in place

A totally capitalist society does not have to be a totally heartless society - responsible capitalism, as opposed to rampant capitalism, is what we should be aiming for. Unfortunately the corrupt have been allowed to use capital to erode the institutions and laws that keep capitalism responsible, resulting in the destruction of the middle class that we see today. We are rapidly approaching a tipping point and I fear the end result will be violent revolution.
 
A totally capitalist society does not have to be a totally heartless society - responsible capitalism, as opposed to rampant capitalism, is what we should be aiming for. Unfortunately the corrupt have been allowed to use capital to erode the institutions and laws that keep capitalism responsible, resulting in the destruction of the middle class that we see today. We are rapidly approaching a tipping point and I fear the end result will be violent revolution.

That's a pipe dream. Management has to answer to the directors and the directors have to answer to share holders. Who in that chain is going to take responsibility and keep their job or relinquish their wealth?
 
A totally capitalist society does not have to be a totally heartless society - responsible capitalism, as opposed to rampant capitalism, is what we should be aiming for. Unfortunately the corrupt have been allowed to use capital to erode the institutions and laws that keep capitalism responsible, resulting in the destruction of the middle class that we see today. We are rapidly approaching a tipping point and I fear the end result will be violent revolution.

When i say totally capitalist, it is the same as rampant capitalist society. The erosion of checks and balances and the control of the media by the same corporations ensure that the people are steadfastly against those things that will benefit them.

/awaits King Arthur :D
 
"stash it abroad" is the only problematic part here. I am not sure how the "pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap" part destroys jobs. What people save at Wal-Mart they'll spend somewhere else. All countries in the world are struggling with tax havens. An integrated approach is required.
 
It is all relative, if Massmart here offered the same benefits that Walmart employees got, they would probably be one of the top places to work in South Africa.

I mean really, a car discount?

http://www.thetorquereport.com/2008/10/chrysler_offers_employee_prici.html

With the tax evasion, companies will always look for a way to reduce paying tax as it directly affects profits. Personally I think the solution for first world countries is to ditch the entire tax system and replace it with a transaction tax.
http://thetransactiontax.org
 
I don't dispute the damage caused but Walmart got there by providing a service and products that people wanted. Those who lost their jobs need to consider that well.
 
I don't dispute the damage caused but Walmart got there by providing a service and products that people wanted. Those who lost their jobs need to consider that well.
Well by that logic, what right do we have to complain about meth heads and drug dealers?
 
That's a pipe dream. Management has to answer to the directors and the directors have to answer to share holders. Who in that chain is going to take responsibility and keep their job or relinquish their wealth?

But those shareholders themselves are similarly soulless giant corporates. It's greed fuelling greed all the way to the top, and it's only possible because of the "corporations = people" mentality that has been allowed to pervert capitalism. As I said, at this point the rot is so pervasive that the only possible solution may very well be to burn it down.
 
Ummm, they're dealing in and consuming illegal products... Walmart aren't.
So people doing bad things isn't a problem, it's the fact that it's illegal that's the problem?

Seems to me to be a great argument to make drug consumption and trading legal, too, no?
 
So people doing bad things isn't a problem, it's the fact that it's illegal that's the problem?

Seems to me to be a great argument to make drug consumption and trading legal, too, no?

I don't disagree that drug consumption and trading should be legal....

But ultimately what Walmart have done is possibly a bit morally wrong, but its not illegal.
 
I don't disagree that drug consumption and trading should be legal....

But ultimately what Walmart have done is possibly a bit morally wrong, but its not illegal.
Right, but isn't the point of passing laws was to give people a legal mandate to stop people hurting other people?
 
Right, but isn't the point of passing laws was to give people a legal mandate to stop people hurting other people?

Not entirely no... but thats a massive area to delve into.

At the end of the day as well, all these subsidiaries of Walmart are used to lessen their American tax burden for their overseas operations from what I can tell... so they're using loopholes in many different countries etc etc... things get complicated when trying to align laws across multiple countries.
 
Not entirely no... but thats a massive area to delve into.

At the end of the day as well, all these subsidiaries of Walmart are used to lessen their American tax burden for their overseas operations from what I can tell... so they're using loopholes in many different countries etc etc... things get complicated when trying to align laws across multiple countries.
But we agree it would be better if all companies paid their fair share of taxes, right?
 
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