Organic, not tested on animals - do you use?

[Necuno]

Organic, not tested on animals - do you use?

Been swapping out all my products to this. Earthsap and pure beginnings is pretty decent imho, trying out as I go along. These things are not cheap though.

 

[cerebus]

I must say, I bought my kid the Enchantrix lotion and bum cream, and my oldest goes red and a tad bit swollen from it...so strange, as it is suppose to be organic and free from everything bad....mmmm not sure, but I heard Earthsap is great(this is Cerebus wifey)

 

[Sinbad]

Nope

Not tested on animals perhaps, but I consider organic to be an overpriced con.

 

[Other Pineapple Smurf]

I don't buy into the whole organic thing as its just a licence to milk you. I put it in the same league as fair trade products, we have no guarantee that it truley is.

I also dispute the claims of true organic vegitables. With spray drift being a problem, no farmer can claim they farm 100% organically (I live 30km from Grabouw yet the spray drift from the orchards lands in our town).

 

[Necuno]

I must say, I bought my kid the Enchantrix lotion and bum cream, and my oldest goes red and a tad bit swollen from it...so strange, as it is suppose to be organic and free from everything bad....mmmm not sure, but I heard Earthsap is great(this is Cerebus wifey)

I have it in reverse be it BS or not, but since I've gone earthsap shampoo I don't have an irritated scalp any more. On that I'm just trying the range for the hec of it.

 

[Other Pineapple Smurf]

I have it in reverse be it BS or not, but since I've gone earthsap shampoo I don't have an irritated scalp any more. On that I'm just trying the range for the hec of it.

Irratated scalps are usually the sign of a dry scalp and better products will help you for that. Just be very careful about all the tree hugging crap floating on the internet - just because its on the internet dose not mean its true. The biggest hoax is currently the foaming agent sodium laureth sulfate used in just about every shampoos, its completely harmless unlike the claims made.

Your hair salon products like Paul Mitchelle are not tested on animals and are 100% perfect. For dry scalp you can get treatments. You say the Earthsap is expensive, I just checked the price and its dirt cheap compared to salon products (my kids shampoo costs R170, Paul Mitchelle kids shampoo, and our "shampoo" shelf currently has R700 worth of products - my wife owns a hairsalon).

 

[Lupus]

I must say, I bought my kid the Enchantrix lotion and bum cream, and my oldest goes red and a tad bit swollen from it...so strange, as it is suppose to be organic and free from everything bad....mmmm not sure, but I heard Earthsap is great(this is Cerebus wifey)

That's where the myth pretty much lies, just because it's organic doesn't mean it's good, it just means they've supposedly used mwah organic methods of farming, which is generally farming methods our ancestors used. I'm not into the whole organic thing because it's actually wasteful and probably causes more harm then good.

 

[Other Pineapple Smurf]

I must say, I bought my kid the Enchantrix lotion and bum cream, and my oldest goes red and a tad bit swollen from it...so strange, as it is suppose to be organic and free from everything bad....mmmm not sure, but I heard Earthsap is great(this is Cerebus wifey)

I had to use "bum cream" when I was really overweight for my inner thighs (and other fat folds) and the best cream was not tree-hugging stuff, it was an uncented mix made by my chemist that had no perfumes (the cuase of most irretants) added to it. Its actually the base cream of all bum-creams and any chemist can mix it for you.

 

[Sherbang]

I'm not into the whole organic thing because it's actually wasteful and probably causes more harm then good.

How is organic wasteful? And in what way does it do harm?

 

[Lupus]

How is organic wasteful? And in what way does it do harm?

Firstly, crops dying due to disease,malnutrition and insects, as the organic fertilizers/insect repellents aren't as good, neither are the crops bred to be resistant to diseases, hence the cost to the consumer.
Secondly by not using modern nitorgen based fertilizers farmers now have to use twice the land for the same or less yield then other farmers, thereby reducing quantity and using up twice the space.
For some reason people think, it's organic it must be better is wrong, it's actually more harmful to the environment then normal farming, we've managed to make great strides in this regards and have learnt how to sustain land and what gives us food. Organic farms actually throw that all back to techniques used a 100 years ago.
Also blind tests done, show that our normal crops actually taste and look better then the organic ones, yet time and time again the people would point them out to be organic.

 

[Necuno]

Irratated scalps are usually the sign of a dry scalp and better products will help you for that. Just be very careful about all the tree hugging crap floating on the internet - just because its on the internet dose not mean its true. The biggest hoax is currently the foaming agent sodium laureth sulfate used in just about every shampoos, its completely harmless unlike the claims made.

I totally agree, anything at face value could be bs. However I don't see harm in reading the book instead of just passing it off. That's not really the debate I want to get into or the need to insult them. Just curious as to see how many people use organic not tested on animal products without the conviction to evangelise.

Your hair salon products like Paul Mitchelle are not tested on animals and are 100% perfect. For dry scalp you can get treatments. You say the Earthsap is expensive, I just checked the price and its dirt cheap compared to salon products (my kids shampoo costs R170, Paul Mitchelle kids shampoo, and our "shampoo" shelf currently has R700 worth of products - my wife owns a hairsalon).

Paul Mitchelle is very nice, I've used that quite a bit before trying out few other alternatives. When I said expensive I was thinking something like organics vs pure beginnings, not everyone can just pay R170 per shampoo let alone R100 instead of R40.

 

[Crowley]

If it's not good enough for animals it's not good enough for me