Paris 2024 Olympics

What I don't understand is that Coetze swimmer of us. Both his semi final and final he lost 1-2m every time he made a turn. He looks like the fastest swimmer but cant make a proper turn. Surely this guy needs a new coach. I mean to make a good turn is just technique, you rarely see swimmers that are way better than other at the turn, but this Coetze guy is way worse than anybody else.
 
Hamster said:
So in a pool where nobody is able to come close to breaking a world record you manage to break it by almost half a second and beat a world class field by a body length over a 100m race.

And you just happen to be from a country with a rich history of doping scandals.

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Firstly. there are no country with a richer history of doping than the USA. Their media just deflect and brainwash everyone to China and Russia.
Secondly when Bolt arrived and smashed every record to pieces there was also doubt. This young man looks pretty big and fit. So I will give him the benefit of the doubt till proven otherwise.
 
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Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
What I don't understand is that Coetze swimmer of us. Both his semi final and final he lost 1-2m every time he made a turn. He looks like the fastest swimmer but cant make a proper turn. Surely this guy needs a new coach. I mean to make a good turn is just technique, you rarely see swimmers that are way better than other at the turn, but this Coetze guy is way worse than anybody else.
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Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
What I don't understand is that Coetze swimmer of us. Both his semi final and final he lost 1-2m every time he made a turn. He looks like the fastest swimmer but cant make a proper turn. Surely this guy needs a new coach. I mean to make a good turn is just technique, you rarely see swimmers that are way better than other at the turn, but this Coetze guy is way worse than anybody else.
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At least he still broke the African record in that final. Also broke African record in the semi-final. Best male backstroke swimmer on the African continent. He's doing fine and improving all the time.
 
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Chinese swimming world record ‘not humanly possible’ says Australian coach​

Telegraph Sport
Updated Thu, August 1, 2024 at 8:18 PM GMT+2 · 6 min read

A leading Australian swimming coach has led criticism of Pan Zhanle’s stunning 100m freestyle world record after saying the Chinese swimmer’s performance in the pool was “not humanly possible”. Brett Hawke led the international disbelief among some quarters after the 19-year-old stormed to gold in 46.40 seconds to beat nearest rival Kyle Chalmers by more than a second.

Pan destroyed a high-class field to shave almost half a second off his own world record in the biggest winning margin in the men’s 100m freestyle since American Johnny Weissmuller in 1928, but his performance has been overshadowed by ongoing suspicions surrounding the Chinese team. The 19-year-old said that he was not concerned by the doping row that has engulfed China’s swimming team at the Paris Games, despite being named in an investigation by The New York Times and German broadcaster ARD.

It reported that 23 athletes at Tokyo 2020 failed drugs tests for a banned heart medication, 11 of whom are competing in the Olympics, and a further two athletes were cleared after testing positive for a strong anabolic steroid in 2022 that was blamed on contaminated meat. But in an animated video posted on his Instagram account, Hawke described it as a performance that “is not real” and said he had never encountered anything like it in three decades coaching in the sport.

“Listen, I’m just going to be honest, I am angry at that swim,” said Hawke, who did not specifically address recent allegations of Chinese doping cover-ups that have included multiple swimmers but not Pan himself. “Look, I’m angry for a number of reasons. Look, my friends are the fastest swimmers in history, from Rowdy Gaines to Alex Popov to Gary Hall Jr, Anthony Ervin and all the way up to King Kyle Chalmers. I know these people intimately, I’ve studied them for 30 years.

“I’ve studied this sport. I’ve studied speed. I understand it. I’m an expert in it, that’s what I do, OK. I’m upset right now because you don’t win 100m freestyle by a body length on that field. You just don’t do it.” Hawke, who represented Australia at the 2000 and 2004 Olympics, said: “It is not humanly possible to beat that field by a body length. I don’t care what you say. This is not a race thing, this is not against any one particular person or nation, this is just what I see and what I know.

“That’s not real, you don’t beat that field. Kyle Chalmers, David Popovici, Jack Alexy, you don’t beat those guys by one full body length in 100m freestyle. That’s not humanly possible, OK, so don’t sell it to me, don’t shove it down my throat. It’s not real.”
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
What I don't understand is that Coetze swimmer of us. Both his semi final and final he lost 1-2m every time he made a turn. He looks like the fastest swimmer but cant make a proper turn. Surely this guy needs a new coach. I mean to make a good turn is just technique, you rarely see swimmers that are way better than other at the turn, but this Coetze guy is way worse than anybody else.
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The guy is 20 and just broke the African record and set his PB in an olympic final so I would cut him some slack. I am sure he will improve and it takes years to perfect the underwater skills to olympic level. Tatjana also lost a lot of time undeerwater not because of poor technique she is good Douglas was just physically stronger (Accoring to Penny Heyns). Chad also swimming today hopefully he has one medla left in him
 
SHL said:

Chinese swimming world record ‘not humanly possible’ says Australian coach​

Telegraph Sport
Updated Thu, August 1, 2024 at 8:18 PM GMT+2 · 6 min read

A leading Australian swimming coach has led criticism of Pan Zhanle’s stunning 100m freestyle world record after saying the Chinese swimmer’s performance in the pool was “not humanly possible”. Brett Hawke led the international disbelief among some quarters after the 19-year-old stormed to gold in 46.40 seconds to beat nearest rival Kyle Chalmers by more than a second.

Pan destroyed a high-class field to shave almost half a second off his own world record in the biggest winning margin in the men’s 100m freestyle since American Johnny Weissmuller in 1928, but his performance has been overshadowed by ongoing suspicions surrounding the Chinese team. The 19-year-old said that he was not concerned by the doping row that has engulfed China’s swimming team at the Paris Games, despite being named in an investigation by The New York Times and German broadcaster ARD.

It reported that 23 athletes at Tokyo 2020 failed drugs tests for a banned heart medication, 11 of whom are competing in the Olympics, and a further two athletes were cleared after testing positive for a strong anabolic steroid in 2022 that was blamed on contaminated meat. But in an animated video posted on his Instagram account, Hawke described it as a performance that “is not real” and said he had never encountered anything like it in three decades coaching in the sport.

“Listen, I’m just going to be honest, I am angry at that swim,” said Hawke, who did not specifically address recent allegations of Chinese doping cover-ups that have included multiple swimmers but not Pan himself. “Look, I’m angry for a number of reasons. Look, my friends are the fastest swimmers in history, from Rowdy Gaines to Alex Popov to Gary Hall Jr, Anthony Ervin and all the way up to King Kyle Chalmers. I know these people intimately, I’ve studied them for 30 years.

“I’ve studied this sport. I’ve studied speed. I understand it. I’m an expert in it, that’s what I do, OK. I’m upset right now because you don’t win 100m freestyle by a body length on that field. You just don’t do it.” Hawke, who represented Australia at the 2000 and 2004 Olympics, said: “It is not humanly possible to beat that field by a body length. I don’t care what you say. This is not a race thing, this is not against any one particular person or nation, this is just what I see and what I know.

“That’s not real, you don’t beat that field. Kyle Chalmers, David Popovici, Jack Alexy, you don’t beat those guys by one full body length in 100m freestyle. That’s not humanly possible, OK, so don’t sell it to me, don’t shove it down my throat. It’s not real.”
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I just watched the highlights the guy is a freak of nature and only 19...
https://twitter.com/x/status/1818758430133190799
 
L-Dog said:
The guy is 20 and just broke the African record and set his PB in an olympic final so I would cut him some slack. I am sure he will improve and it takes years to perfect the underwater skills to olympic level. Tatjana also lost a lot of time undeerwater not because of poor technique she is good Douglas was just physically stronger (Accoring to Penny Heyns). Chad also swimming today hopefully he has one medla left in him
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I have nothing against him. I said he needs a new coach. At 20 you should be able to do proper turns underwater. We have 17 year old Olympic champions already. 19 year old world record holders. In swimming your lifespan is not that long. He swims fast enough to have got a medal or even the gold if he was better underwater.
The panel of experts on Supersport said the same thing after his semi final, that he is very slow at the turns.
 
SHL said:

Chinese swimming world record ‘not humanly possible’ says Australian coach​

Telegraph Sport
Updated Thu, August 1, 2024 at 8:18 PM GMT+2 · 6 min read

A leading Australian swimming coach has led criticism of Pan Zhanle’s stunning 100m freestyle world record after saying the Chinese swimmer’s performance in the pool was “not humanly possible”. Brett Hawke led the international disbelief among some quarters after the 19-year-old stormed to gold in 46.40 seconds to beat nearest rival Kyle Chalmers by more than a second.

Pan destroyed a high-class field to shave almost half a second off his own world record in the biggest winning margin in the men’s 100m freestyle since American Johnny Weissmuller in 1928, but his performance has been overshadowed by ongoing suspicions surrounding the Chinese team. The 19-year-old said that he was not concerned by the doping row that has engulfed China’s swimming team at the Paris Games, despite being named in an investigation by The New York Times and German broadcaster ARD.

It reported that 23 athletes at Tokyo 2020 failed drugs tests for a banned heart medication, 11 of whom are competing in the Olympics, and a further two athletes were cleared after testing positive for a strong anabolic steroid in 2022 that was blamed on contaminated meat. But in an animated video posted on his Instagram account, Hawke described it as a performance that “is not real” and said he had never encountered anything like it in three decades coaching in the sport.

“Listen, I’m just going to be honest, I am angry at that swim,” said Hawke, who did not specifically address recent allegations of Chinese doping cover-ups that have included multiple swimmers but not Pan himself. “Look, I’m angry for a number of reasons. Look, my friends are the fastest swimmers in history, from Rowdy Gaines to Alex Popov to Gary Hall Jr, Anthony Ervin and all the way up to King Kyle Chalmers. I know these people intimately, I’ve studied them for 30 years.

“I’ve studied this sport. I’ve studied speed. I understand it. I’m an expert in it, that’s what I do, OK. I’m upset right now because you don’t win 100m freestyle by a body length on that field. You just don’t do it.” Hawke, who represented Australia at the 2000 and 2004 Olympics, said: “It is not humanly possible to beat that field by a body length. I don’t care what you say. This is not a race thing, this is not against any one particular person or nation, this is just what I see and what I know.

“That’s not real, you don’t beat that field. Kyle Chalmers, David Popovici, Jack Alexy, you don’t beat those guys by one full body length in 100m freestyle. That’s not humanly possible, OK, so don’t sell it to me, don’t shove it down my throat. It’s not real.”
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Australians are always bad losers. That's also why they play a funny type of rugby.
 
SHL said:

Chinese swimming world record ‘not humanly possible’ says Australian coach​

Telegraph Sport
Updated Thu, August 1, 2024 at 8:18 PM GMT+2 · 6 min read

A leading Australian swimming coach has led criticism of Pan Zhanle’s stunning 100m freestyle world record after saying the Chinese swimmer’s performance in the pool was “not humanly possible”. Brett Hawke led the international disbelief among some quarters after the 19-year-old stormed to gold in 46.40 seconds to beat nearest rival Kyle Chalmers by more than a second.

Pan destroyed a high-class field to shave almost half a second off his own world record in the biggest winning margin in the men’s 100m freestyle since American Johnny Weissmuller in 1928, but his performance has been overshadowed by ongoing suspicions surrounding the Chinese team. The 19-year-old said that he was not concerned by the doping row that has engulfed China’s swimming team at the Paris Games, despite being named in an investigation by The New York Times and German broadcaster ARD.

It reported that 23 athletes at Tokyo 2020 failed drugs tests for a banned heart medication, 11 of whom are competing in the Olympics, and a further two athletes were cleared after testing positive for a strong anabolic steroid in 2022 that was blamed on contaminated meat. But in an animated video posted on his Instagram account, Hawke described it as a performance that “is not real” and said he had never encountered anything like it in three decades coaching in the sport.

“Listen, I’m just going to be honest, I am angry at that swim,” said Hawke, who did not specifically address recent allegations of Chinese doping cover-ups that have included multiple swimmers but not Pan himself. “Look, I’m angry for a number of reasons. Look, my friends are the fastest swimmers in history, from Rowdy Gaines to Alex Popov to Gary Hall Jr, Anthony Ervin and all the way up to King Kyle Chalmers. I know these people intimately, I’ve studied them for 30 years.

“I’ve studied this sport. I’ve studied speed. I understand it. I’m an expert in it, that’s what I do, OK. I’m upset right now because you don’t win 100m freestyle by a body length on that field. You just don’t do it.” Hawke, who represented Australia at the 2000 and 2004 Olympics, said: “It is not humanly possible to beat that field by a body length. I don’t care what you say. This is not a race thing, this is not against any one particular person or nation, this is just what I see and what I know.

“That’s not real, you don’t beat that field. Kyle Chalmers, David Popovici, Jack Alexy, you don’t beat those guys by one full body length in 100m freestyle. That’s not humanly possible, OK, so don’t sell it to me, don’t shove it down my throat. It’s not real.”
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I wonder if it was someone like Phelps who broke the record would they still say it's humanly impossible or would they praise him for being a machine?
 
Pretty impressive the crowds at this Olympics. Every venue is mostly full, no matter the time of day. Even the Olympic stadium for the morning athletics right now. Don't the French have jobs? :p
 
wbot said:
Pretty impressive the crowds at this Olympics. Every venue is mostly full, no matter the time of day. Even the Olympic stadium for the morning athletics right now. Don't the French have jobs? :p
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DEI ones do and it's summer currently in N.Hemisphere, people taking leave, schools vacations, tourists from other countries
;)
 
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