Paris Air Show thread

kat06sa said:
Exactly. Get enough to get the frequency right on the JNB-CPT-DUR triangle route and also has the legs to service the regional routes without over capacity.
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If memory serves the CS100 can actually use the short runway at Wonderboom. Not sure how the hot and high conditions we have here impacts the minimum runway length in its specs though.
 
Ockie said:
If memory serves the CS100 can actually use the short runway at Wonderboom. Not sure how the hot and high conditions we have here impacts the minimum runway length in its specs though.
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Take off run at MTOW 1,219 m (3,999 ft)(C100) 1,524 m (5,000 ft)(C300)
Landing field length at MLW 1,356 m (4,449 ft)(C100) 1,463 m (4,800 ft)(C300)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_CSeries
 
HunterGR said:
Take off run at MTOW 1,219 m (3,999 ft)(C100) 1,524 m (5,000 ft)(C300)
Landing field length at MLW 1,356 m (4,449 ft)(C100) 1,463 m (4,800 ft)(C300)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_CSeries
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What is more important is the second segment climb, especially for our highveld airports which see high tempretures during summer. That's why SAA has a lot of 4 engined long haul aircraft, for now*.
 
Thats a heluva thing to pull off or in this case to pull up ! :D
 
I now live in Farnborough in the UK, so willbhave to wait until next year when the airshow comes back here. So will give Paris a skip this year.

I am going to RIAT in July. So excited. The Avro Vulcan will be doing a flyby.

The US will also have an MV-22 Osprey do some flight displays. As well as an A-10 and F-15.

Gonna be good to see that.
 
AIRSHOW-Russia's United Aircraft Corp eyes new wide-body jet with Chinese by 2025

PARIS, June 15 Russia's United Aircraft Corporation wants a new wide-body aircraft it is developing with a Chinese company to be flying by 2025, as part of an ambitious project to take on Western planemakers Airbus and Boeing Co.

Commercial Aircraft Corp of China Ltd and United Aircraft Corporation, both state-controlled companies, have been considering the joint development of a new advanced wide-body jet since May 2014.

United Aircraft Corporation's new president Yury Slyusar, who took the reins in January, said the Russian and Chinese governments would from September be in a position to decide on whether to proceed with the project after it is presented that month.

"We would like to develop, certify and produce the first aircraft within ten years, so by 2025 we should begin deliveries," Slyusar, speaking through a translator, told reporters at the Paris air show on Monday.

The joint project could give both China and Russia a chance to compete in the wide-body segment which currently operates as a virtual duopoly under Europe's Airbus and U.S. rival Boeing.

While Soviet Russia had developed wide-body technology some decades ago, Slyusar said this jet would be a new design.

"The aircraft has to be developed from scratch," he said.

"The level of the Chinese industry that we're seeing leads us to believe that it will be a very innovative aircraft."

China is in the process of developing a home-grown narrow-body commercial jet, the Comac C919, but it is behind schedule and delivery could be pushed back as much as two years, dealing a blow to any challenge to Airbus and Boeing in smaller planes.

Slyusar acknowledged the plan to compete in wide-bodies was a high stakes game. "It will determine the level of competitiveness of both Russia and China's aviation industries," he said.

The engine for any new wide-bodied jet would likely be sourced from either U.S. aero-engine maker GE or Britain's Rolls-Royce, Slyusar added.

"We're not commenting if we're speaking with them or not because it's too early, the decision has not been made yet," a United Aircraft Corporation spokesman said on the sidelines of the press conference.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/15/airshow-france-unitedaircraftcorp-idUSL5N0Z13WQ20150615
 
AIRSHOW-Qatar Airways CEO says ILO has "vendetta" against Qatar due to discrimination

PARIS, June 16 (Reuters) - Qatar Airways Chief Executive Akbar Al Baker on Tuesday accused the International Labour Organization (ILO) of having a "vendetta" against Qatar and its state carrier after the U.N. agency called for it to stop discriminating against women staff.

The ILO published a report on Saturday detailing its recommendations to Qatar on how the airline should change its employment rules in order to end discrimination. The report was triggered by complaints from global workers' rights movements, the ILO said.

Rules cited as discriminatory included the requirement that employees get permission to change their marital status, the automatic dismissal of cabin crew members who fell pregnant and surveillance of the employees' private lives.

"I don't give a damn about the ILO - I am there to run a successful airline," Al Baker told Reuters at an aviation show in Paris when asked about the ILO ruling.

"This is evidence of a vendetta they have against Qatar Airways and my country. My country has responded to the ILO accusations in a very robust way. We clarified the clauses in our contract."

The ILO report said Qatar justified Qatar Airways' dismissal of pregnant women by citing expecting mothers' apparent lack of physical fitness to fly and inability to meet the job requirements.

The report also said that Qatar Airways had introduced new employee contracts in December 2014 that no longer state that permission is required for a change in marital status.

Eighty percent of Qatar Airways' 9,000 cabin crew workforce are women, the ILO said in its report, citing the Qatari government.

"Protective measures should include action taken to ensure that a woman worker does not lose her job during pregnancy and that maternity is not a source of discrimination," the ILO said.

A spokesman for the Qatar government was immediately unavailable for comment.

Qatar has been repeatedly criticised for its treatment of its labour force as the country steps up construction ahead of the 2022 World Cup.

In May, the government announced plans for labour reforms but did not lay down a framework or timetable for the changes.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/16/qatarairways-labour-idUSL5N0Z23XR20150616
 
Embattled Air France drops routes to cut more costs

PARIS, June 15 (Reuters) - Air France announced line closures and 80 million euros ($90 million) of new cost cuts on Monday as it accelerates its Perform 2020 restructuring plans in the wake of another drop in its unit revenues.

The carrier, part of Air France-KLM, said it would close four loss-making lines including Kuala Lumpur and three destinations in Europe, and reduce frequencies or capacity on other routes in Japan, Brazil and Russia.

Air France said it may also defer deliveries of new Airbus A350 and Boeing 787 aircraft and retire another Airbus A340 early because the older plane achieves poor fuel economy.

The airline said it was launching legal action in order to push through its reorganisation plans because it had failed to make any progress in seven months of talks with the SNPL ADF Alpa pilots' union.

Union representatives were not immediately available for comment.

Air France, like other traditional carriers, faces severe competition from low-cost rivals on regional routes and from state-backed airlines such as Emirates for long-haul passengers.

A strike last year over its existing productivity drive cost the company 500 million euros. German rival Lufthansa is having similar difficulties getting cuts past union officials.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/15/airfrance-klm-costs-idUSL5N0Z149020150615
 
Boeing Extends Paris Air-Show Lead With Record Aercap Order

Boeing Co. extended its lead over Airbus Group SE on the second day of the Paris Air Show, pulling in the biggest deal yet at the expo with 100 single-aisle planes that gives it almost twice the haul of its arch-rival.

The order, by leasing company Aercap Holdings NV, is for 100 737 MAX 8 aircraft valued at about $10.7 billion at list price. The accord is the biggest transaction yet at the trade show by numbers and value, as both manufacturers seek to maintain their momentum and unveil more deals in the next days.

The accord, which Aercap said was “intensely” negotiated over the course of last year, gives Boeing a tally of about $29.6 billion in total, almost double Airbus’s $15 billion. The advantage is a surprise lead for the U.S. manufacturer, which typically trails Airbus at the Paris Show, considered the European manufacturer’s home turf.

“This is a big day for us, it’s a real highlight of the show,” said Ray Conner, the head of Boeing’s commercial aircraft unit.

Aercap Chief Executive Officer Aengus Kelly said the deal came together in the final days before the show, with Boeing telling the leasing company that it wanted to “make this happen.” Aercap is also interested in the larger 737 MAX 9 to help replace aging models in its fleet, Kelly said in an interview after the signing.

Boeing also announced another purchase agreement for the 737 MAX 8 on the second day, for 10 units by SMBC Aviation Capital.

Emerging Markets

Emerging-market carriers including PT Garuda Indonesia, Saudi Arabian Airlines and Qatar Airways Ltd. went shopping for long-haul jets, a sign of faster travel growth in those regions than elsewhere. Heading into the Paris expo, analysts had played down sales prospects for Boeing and Airbus wide-bodies.

Embraer SA extended its advantage over Bombardier Inc. in regional aircraft, winning firm jet orders for $2.6 billion from customers including lessor Aircastle Ltd. and United Continental Holdings Inc.

Bombardier had one customer, Deutsche Lufthansa AG’s Swiss unit, convert a CSeries order to take 10 of the larger version of the new plane instead of the smaller CS100, and another, Canada’s WestJet Airlines Ltd., exercise options to add five Q400 turboprops.

Production Pipeline

Garuda signed up for 30 Airbus A350s and the same number of Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners together worth almost $17 billion, while Saudia, as the Arab carrier is known, placed the first order for a regional version of the Airbus A330. Qatar Airways bought 10 of Boeing’s upgraded 777X plus four 777 freighters, valued at a combined $4.8 billion.

The A330s and 777s “may have come with favorable terms” as Airbus and Boeing seek to fill up available assembly-line slots ahead of planned transitions to newer models, said George Ferguson, a Bloomberg Intelligence analyst.

“Boeing and Airbus seem to be aggressively trying to close the production gap for the A330 and 777s, thus the sales of these wide-bodies today,” Ferguson said.

Garuda’s Dreamliner deal has a list price of about $7.7 billion, while the A350 component is worth more than $9 billion. The Asian carrier also wants 30 single-aisle 737 Max 8 planes worth about $3.2 billion, with the deals all outline orders.

Regional Wide-Body

Saudia’s announcement covers 20 A330-300s valued at about $5 billion, plus 30 single-aisle A320s with current-generation engines. Qatar’s 777-8X deal follows an earlier one for 50 -9X aircraft, while the 777 freighters will take the fleet to 12.

Customers typically get steep discounts on aircraft orders and don’t pay full list prices.

Boeing also announced Monday that Eva Airways Corp. of Taiwan intends to purchase five of the 777 cargo planes worth more than $1.5 billion at list prices.

General Electric Co.’s leasing unit agreed to buy 60 A320neos, the updated version of the A320 featuring new engines. That deal has a list value of about $6.4 billion. Lessors are prized buyers because they place planes with multiple customers. GE Capital Aviation Services has previously bought both Maxes and A30neos, while AerCap has neos on its books but only older Boeing 737s. GE is the sole engine supplier on the Max.

Among the first leasing companies to place orders at the show was Air Lease Corp., run by Steve Udvar-Hazy, which said it will buy one additional A350-900, as well as one of Airbus’s current A321s and three A320s.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...x-wide-body-muscle-with-20-billion-paris-haul
 
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