Parking vs Stopping

[Freshy-ZN]

From a legal point of view what is the difference between the two? Ive always considered parking to be when you get out and leave your car and stopping to be, well stopping and stating in the car.

I got a fine for 'parking in a no parking zone' at DBN airport however I did not leave the car and was stopped for a few mins. The long story is I had an altercation with a rude and stupid Metro Ticket Cop type idiot. He never issued me with a fine at the time but must have written it up after I left to spite me.

 

[Pyro]

Was the engine still on?

 

[Just_Ice]

Define park:
Define stop:

Thats the question

 

[Pyro]

If the engine was running and you were not obstructing traffic, you get away with calling it stopped. If you're there for more than a minute, it could get hard to justify. If the engine was off, you were parked.

I'm sure there's a proper definition somewhere in the laws.

Australia's law:

A ‘No Parking’ sign means that drivers must not stop in the area indicated by the sign unless they are dropping off or picking up passengers or goods. While stopped in a ‘No Parking’ zone drivers are not permitted to leave the vehicle unattended, which means they must remain within 3 metres of the vehicle.

Unless the signs say otherwise, the time limit for stopping is two minutes.

 

[Morgoth]

the definition of a stop is having your car standing still for 5 seconds or more,

 

[Morgoth]

a parking is after 2mins of standstill as far as I remember for my drivers.

 

[TestMate]

From a legal point of view what is the difference between the two? Ive always considered parking to be when you get out and leave your car and stopping to be, well stopping and stating in the car.

I got a fine for 'parking in a no parking zone' at DBN airport however I did not leave the car and was stopped for a few mins. The long story is I had an altercation with a rude and stupid Metro Ticket Cop type idiot. He never issued me with a fine at the time but must have written it up after I left to spite me.

I still remember a huge sign just before Durb's: "ClevaNoMore" from their take on the 'Arrive-Alive' campaign bulsh#t.
You could be in the car and sleeping for all the Cop cares. Pay the fine and don't do it in busy areas again. The Cops are very strict about it on JHB International (ORT) as well.

 

[Fudzy]

Was there a sign with a P crossed through it or a sign with a S crossed through it? Moral of the story, avoid altercations with God complex types with funny blue hats.

 

[Gomario]

Stopping is when the entire vehicle stands still (all for wheels not moving and firm on 'terra firma'/not brake locked). The driver not only sits in the drivers sit with the engine running,but also is able to move the vehicle at very short notice (few seconds). Anything als when the vehicle 'stands still',is considered to be 'parked'. And yes,I am a cop (not traffic thou) and can't belive how many people drive, out there, without having a clue what they are doing. No wonder so many road users get killed ! Never mind parking - when did you last bother to properly STOP at a stop streed sign (as defined above)? Of course, everybody hates traffic cops, imagine how quiet (literarely and otherwise), the roads would be without them Next time moer him well (after all it was his fault for spotting you in the first place), so that he will have to call me to arrest you and I will explain all of the above in detail and 'free of charge'.

 

[Juggy]

Stopping is when the entire vehicle stands still (all for wheels not moving and firm on 'terra firma'/not brake locked).

Compared to when the front wheels are moving and the back aren't?

 

[SteveO]

simple...

parked: engine off, handbrake up
stopped: engine running (ie: at a robot, with handbrake up, you are stopped not parked)

 

[Prankst3r]

From a legal point of view what is the difference between the two? Ive always considered parking to be when you get out and leave your car and stopping to be, well stopping and stating in the car.

I got a fine for 'parking in a no parking zone' at DBN airport however I did not leave the car and was stopped for a few mins. The long story is I had an altercation with a rude and stupid Metro Ticket Cop type idiot. He never issued me with a fine at the time but must have written it up after I left to spite me.

Dude I was behind you that night! I saw you and the idiot cops exchanging some words and he then proceeded to write the ticket.

Apparently that area is a stop and go zone and they work on a rotating system. Basically you are allowed to 'park' there for a few minutes and then you have to drive all the way around and come back. I guess this is done to avoid the stop and go zone from filling up.

Hope you get it sorted out tho

 

[CathJ]

Actually I remember this from doing my learners:

Parking is defined as stopping for longer than required to let passengers in or out the vehicle.

Which seems a bit vague, but that's what it says in the learners book.

 

[Freshy-ZN]

Dude I was behind you that night! I saw you and the idiot cops exchanging some words and he then proceeded to write the ticket.

Apparently that area is a stop and go zone and they work on a rotating system. Basically you are allowed to 'park' there for a few minutes and then you have to drive all the way around and come back. I guess this is done to avoid the stop and go zone from filling up.

Hope you get it sorted out tho

Serious? If it was the same night then you will remember the 'stop and go' area was 90% empty and nobody was waiting to stop and go. I was waiting for an Italian colleague and she was slightly delayed at the carousel. I couldnt explain to her that the cops had asked me to move (very rudely which got my back up) and that I would drive around the block blah blah. Try explaining all that via sms to an Italian!

What really got my back up was I tried to explain that to the cops which proved more difficult than explaining it to a foreigner so I had words with them. If the truth be known I told him to kiss my ass. He responded by telling me " No, you can kiss my ass". Very professional keeping in mind Im not the one in uniform.

And to you Gomario the 'real cop': next time I will moer the traffic cop so you can explain it to me nicely ok? You PM did come across as sarcastic as did your public post. Problem with you law official types is you cannot see the wood for the trees and sum up a situation using all available info. Not everything is as cut and dry as you think.