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MADONSELA 'CONCERNED' BY ZUMA'S REPLY

Public Protector Thuli Madonsela has expressed concern that President Jacob Zuma is second-guessing the recommendations she made in her Nkandla report, City Press reported on Sunday.

In his reply to her report, Zuma indicated Police Minister Nathi Nhleko needed to determine if he should pay back any of the R246 million spent on security upgrades at his Nkandla, KwaZulu-Natal, homestead.

"I am concerned that the decision you have made regarding the police minister gives him power he does not have under law, which is to review my decision taken in pursuit of the powers of administrative scrutiny I am given... by the Constitution," she wrote in a letter to Zuma.

"As I have already indicated, reports of the public protector are by law not subject to any review or second-guessing by a minister and/or the Cabinet."

Her findings and remedial action could only be set aside by a court of law, she wrote.

She noted that in his 20-page reply to her report he did not address her findings or remedial action.

In her report, titled "Secure in Comfort", Madonsela indicated Zuma needed to repay all non-security related expenses at Nkandla, such as the swimming pool, cattle kraal, amphitheatre, and vistors' centre.

Source : Sapa /th
Date : 24 Aug 2014 09:18
 
MADONSELA SHOULD LET PARLY DO ITS JOB: SACP

Public Protector Thuli Madonsela should let parliamentary processes on Nkandla take place, the SACP said on Sunday.

"As all democratic institutions need to respect each other, we need to urge the public protector to respect her own report," SA Communist Party deputy general secretary Jeremy Cronin said.

The party was briefing reporters in Johannesburg following its three-day central committee meeting.

Cronin was reacting to a letter Madonsela wrote to Zuma in which she expressed concern that Zuma was second-guessing the recommendations she made in her report, titled "Secure in Comfort".

In his reply to Madonsela's report, President Jacob Zuma indicated Police Minister Nathi Nhleko needed to determine if he should pay back any of the R246 million spent on security upgrades at his Nkandla, KwaZulu-Natal, homestead.

Madonsela had recommended he repay those expenses that were not security related, such as the swimming pool, cattle kraal, and amphitheatre.

In her letter Madonsela expressed concern that Zuma was second-guessing her recommendations and giving Nhleko powers he did not have.

Cronin said Madonsela's letter to Zuma contradicted her previous statements that the matter was currently in the hands of Parliament.

SACP secretary general Blade Nzimande said processes should be respected.

"It is very important to respect processes. The public protector clearly contradicts her own report. Whether there should be payment or not, that should be determined by the processes in place," Nzimande said.

The party did not have issues with Madonsela, but was concerned about her conduct.

"She has crossed boundaries she's not supposed to cross. She must protect the integrity of her office," he said.

Party chairman Thulas Nxesi said Madonsela wrote to Zuma despite previously indicating she was not interested in talking to him about the report, and that it would be submitted to Parliament.

"There are processes in Parliament. All of us have made submissions on the report in Parliament... processes must be followed," he said.

Source : Sapa /gm/th/mar
Date : 24 Aug 2014 14:59
 
And the SACP miss the point again... Zuma failed to follow the Parliamentary process by ignoring the PP's last report, which he explicitly stated in his reply.
 
MADONSELA MUST RESPECT PROCESSES: ANC

Public Protector Thuli Madonsela should respect Parliament's handling of the Nkandla saga, the ANC Chief Whip's office said on Sunday.

"The public protector ought to respect the process that is currently underway in Parliament and refrain from engaging in extra-parliamentary processes," spokesman Moloto Mothapo said in a statement.

"Our view is that, rather than directing her views to the president, she must await the ad hoc committee process where she would have an opportunity to table them."

Chief Whip Stone Sizani's office was responding to media reports on Sunday that Madonsela expressed concern that Zuma was second-guessing the recommendations she made in her report on Nkandla, titled "Secure in Comfort".

City Press reported that Madonsela wrote a letter to Zuma noting that in his 20-page reply to her report he did not address her findings or remedial action.

In his reply Zuma indicated Police Minister Nathi Nhleko needed to determine if he should pay back any of the R246 million spent on security upgrades at his Nkandla, KwaZulu-Natal, homestead.

"I am concerned that the decision you have made regarding the police minister gives him power he does not have under law, which is to review my decision taken in pursuit of the powers of administrative scrutiny I am given... by the Constitution," Madonsela wrote in the letter to Zuma, according to the newspaper.

"As I have already indicated, reports of the public protector are by law not subject to any review or second-guessing by a minister and/or the Cabinet."

Her findings and remedial action could only be set aside by a court of law, she wrote.

Mothapo said the report was before Parliament and an ad hoc committee, and that the legality of her letter was questionable.

"The irony of the... letter to the president is that, while it makes serious accusations regarding the president's alleged undermining of democratic institutions, she herself elects a path that undermines the authority of the legislative sphere of government, Parliament, and its constitutional processes," he said.

"It sets a dangerous precedent in which her office is placed above that of Parliament. Given that the report of the president, together with other reports relating to the security upgrades... are currently before Parliament, her letter seems to be opening a parallel process whose legality is questionable."

Source : Sapa /mar/th
Date : 24 Aug 2014 14:33
 
"Our view is that, rather than directing her views to the president, she must await the ad hoc committee process where she would have an opportunity to table them."

The one where the ANC has 6 of the 11 seats, that one? :erm:
 
This story broke when I was in Cpt, on the one hand I was amused, a little impressed, but I get the feeling that the shirt is on the way, all in good jest now, but one morning you shall wake up to the news that so and do killef mr x.... The eff are uneducated , they are like the masses that voted them in and I fear that through thir urrent antics they shall only garnish more support, though not at a loss for the DA but the Anc..
 
This story broke when I was in Cpt, on the one hand I was amused, a little impressed, but I get the feeling that the shirt is on the way, all in good jest now, but one morning you shall wake up to the news that so and do killef mr x.... The eff are uneducated , they are like the masses that voted them in and I fear that through thir urrent antics they shall only garnish more support, though not at a loss for the DA but the Anc..
While being in full agreement with you, they still say what other parties are too scared to say.....However, Parliament cannot allow disruptive behaviour like this. Surely not the last time...

In a way...the current role of the EFF, imo, is a good thing
 
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