i don't like mac but here is a vid for u mac lovers http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2242881/mac_vs_pc/
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foozball3000
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I tried that for a while but once hdd space was at a premium they were the first to go in favour of virtualised images I could keep on a dvd until I needed them.And then just add Ubuntu to your system... then you have the best of all 3 worlds.
foozball3000
Executive Member
It takes 5 Macs to beat One PC!??? And it wasn't even an Alienware PC...
foozball3000
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lol... this is funny... http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1216086/south_park_mac_vs_pc_vs_linux
Sackboy
Executive Member
I like Macs, but always wish the hardware were more cutting edge technically. I sometimes get the impression that Apple customers are sacrificing a few edges in exchange for use of OSX.
Tell me what is wrong with this - what sort of sacrifices are you referring to? http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html
Sackboy
Executive Member
I didn't say "wrong", I said I wanted it to have an edge over rivals.
That MACBOOKPRO doesn't even have Blueray READ ONLY, let alone WRITE. If you compare it to, say a Sony Vaio VGN-AW190 Premium, which has similar specs. As far as I can tell, the Sony also wins on price - but no OSX of course.
Granted, the battery has been squashed in and reshaped, giving it a longer charge, while at the same time creating user replacement issues. (a common trait for Apple products). They've also chosen a 5400rpm drive to extend power saving. One shouldn't laugh these 'innovations' off totally.
I'm often in position to buy a new Apple and I get excited looking at the specs and then come to one important paragraph and suddenly my enthusiasm wanes to the point of either waiting or looking at Windows PC's.
I was initially thinking of the iMac, which is more affordable, but there they've gone cheap on the graphics and made it non-upgradeable to a large extent. I didn't consider the MACPRO, which lives up to it's name and staggering price to match. I was disappointed also with the iMAC DVD writer, which was a troublesome Matsu****a and now I see it's sporting unremarkable Pioneer. Apple almost makes an effort not to disclose what brand of components are in the thing.
The Macbook is just too underspec'ed for me and the underpowered Mini is a toy.
Apple did a similar thing some years ago with the Macbook Pro, when I compared it directly with the best laptop in the Windows world. It was using HALF the video memory + it was shared. The graphics card was on a rung a few steps below as well.
It looks like they're listening and going in the right direction, but it's late.
koffiejunkie
Executive Member
I don't understand where people get the time to watch this, let alone go to the effort of making this.
MacBook Pro? Are you sure? Apple's tech specs say they all had dedicated GDDR3. The PowerBook (NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 64MB/ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 128MB*) and iBook (ATI Mobility Radeon 9550 32MB*) before the Intels also all had dedicated graphics. My G4 Mini had a dedicated ATi chip with dedicated video memory. Heck, even the toilet seat iBook had dedicated ATI RAGE 128 with 8MB graphics.
Last PPC editions - you can look up the rest
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I also have no recollection of a MBP having anything other than dedicated graphics - except of course the most recent models
You can buy an external BD writer.
You'd still need to boot into Win to watch BD movies.
The key is to always buy a Mac Pro when it comes out, at that stage
the model is always cheaper than the equivalent Xeon dual processor
laden machine from Dell.
I am running a Panasonic Toughbook (business model) totally designed and assembled
in Nippon with Japanese techs and Japanese assembly workers tightening every last screw and it has a Matsu---ita DVD-writer. Those are good quality components and their only drawback is permanent region lock which
not even AnyDVD can crack. Of course I could take my business toughened CF-Y7 Panny and smash any Vaio with it then
resume working with super battery life and not even a scratch on the machine, the laptop does cost more than
outsourced Chinese made Vaios.
My Mac Pro came with a SONY DVD burner, but it was a generic NEC
in disguise. Flashing it to it's RPC-1 NEC variant even unlocked additional
functionality.
It depends on what you wanna do. If you want to do high def video
rendering you'll need a Mac Pro with a video processor card like the Kona Aja.
For other things, any Mac will do. For portability a MB would be best.
MBP always used discrete graphics and dedicated RAM.
People don't get it that the OS and choice of Apple pro-apps are usually the best reasons to get a Mac. The lower spec'ed machine actually performs better with the Apple designed software (eg Final Cut Pro, Shake, Motion) than
Windoze equivalents (Adobe Premiere Pro and AE flop) on Windoze Vista.
Besides all the pros use Apple apps - and these even give AviD (a much more expensive solution) a run for their money.
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Sackboy
Executive Member
Are we perhaps confusing dedicated graphics and shared memory? As far as I recollect (and I don't keep detailed statistics on Apple releases and things) it had a dedicated graphics card (Nvidia or ATI), but it shared main memory in some way. Anyone know of a site that holds the details?
koffiejunkie
Executive Member
No, I'm not confusing it. As PeterCH mentioned, Apple has always used dedicated vram. The GeForce 9400M is the first dedicated chip to use shared memory. And in the MBP there's still the higher end chip with dedicated memory. edit: Other than the ones with Intel graphics, that is.
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Sackboy
Executive Member
I forget the exact model, but it was a similar arrangement to this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro
nVidia GeForce 9400M with 256MB of GDDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro
A search for "shared" brings up only that entry on that page.