Piracy is not theft

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Mike Hoxbig said:
Of course it's not theft, you're not stealing the original. You're making a copy. Otherwise taking a picture of the Mona Lisa and printing a life sized copy of it would also be theft...
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You clearly don't understand. They are not the same thing.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Of course it's not theft, you're not stealing the original. You're making a copy. Otherwise taking a picture of the Mona Lisa and printing a life sized copy of it would also be theft...
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This is the dumbest comparison yet, but I think the amount of likes you are getting for it is of greater concern.
 
Mekon said:
You clearly don't understand. They are not the same thing.
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Hamster said:
This is the dumbest comparison yet, but I think the amount of likes you are getting for it is of greater concern.
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It's exactly the same. All the pictures of the Mona Lisa cause that too few people travel to France to see the original. The French people are losing billions in tourist funding...
 
deesef said:
It's exactly the same. All the pictures of the Mona Lisa cause that too few people travel to France to see the original. The French people are losing billions in tourist funding...
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Taking pictures of the Mona Lisa is expressly allowed where as pirating software and media is stealing from a company's income.

If you want to compare pirating to something, compare it to sneaking into a cinema or The Louvre where the Mona Lisa is exhibited without paying an entrance fee.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Of course it's not theft, you're not stealing the original. You're making a copy. Otherwise taking a picture of the Mona Lisa and printing a life sized copy of it would also be theft...
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Not the same.

If Da Vinci was making money off exhibiting it, and your copy also makes money off exhibitions, Da Vinci will be pissed.
 
Use common sense. Don't sell or gain financially from your downloads.

 
Technically, piracy implies financial gain. Ergo, if I'm downloading a film for my own personal use, with no intention of selling it, it's not piracy.
 
The Voice said:
Technically, piracy implies financial gain. Ergo, if I'm downloading a film for my own personal use, with no intention of selling it, it's not piracy.
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Technically it also implies you getting something that you should've paid for. Go write a book and wait till people pirate it and see which side of the fence you stand on then.
 
saor said:
Technically it also implies you getting something that you should've paid for. Go write a book and wait till people pirate it and see which side of the fence you stand on then.
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If the book is good enough Piracy would actually catapult it to fame. Thereby inadvertently creating more legitimate sales.
 
|tera| said:
If the book is good enough Piracy would actually catapult it to fame. Thereby inadvertently creating more legitimate sales.
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The inadvertent utility of piracy is irrelevant. The ends don't justify the means etc. Downloading something you should have paid for is still wrong, even tho we all do it.
 
saor said:
The utility is irrelevant. The ends don't justify the means etc. Downloading something you should have paid for is still wrong, even tho we all do it.
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Nope. Don't agree. Sorry. I've been online too long. With the frequency of new releases, updates and new additions you would have to be a multimillionaire to purchase it all. It's life. There's been confirmed cases of my analogy. Companies release content on the web under the guise of piracy to get more traction for their products.
 
|tera| said:
Nope. Don't agree. Sorry. I've been online too long. With the frequency of new releases, updates and new additions you would have to be a multimillionaire to purchase it all. It's life. There's been confirmed cases of my analogy. Companies release content on the web under the guise of piracy to get more traction for their products.
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Nice jump from a $5 book example to a $10k software example. People afford 3 coffees a day but can't be bothered to pay for an ebook. Stop jumping to the extremes to justify piracy in all digital domains. The author on Amazon doesn't want their book distributed for free.
 
saor said:
Nice jump from a $5 book example to a $10k software example. People afford 3 coffees a day but can't be bothered to pay for an ebook. Stop jumping to the extremes to justify piracy.
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There's no extremes. It's basic logic and common sense. Your marketing sucks if you can't sell your book. Or it's a kak book.
 
|tera| said:
There's no extremes. It's basic logic and common sense. Your marketing sucks if you can't sell your book. Or it's a kak book.
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Lol at justifying piracy by making it about the author. Whatever helps you sleep
 
saor said:
Lol at justifying piracy by making it about the author. Whatever helps you sleep
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Lol at your failure to comprehend basic business. Who said it's the author? Many great authors wrote tens of kak books before a best seller.
 
|tera| said:
Lol at your failure to comprehend basic business. Who said it's the author? Many great authors wrote tens of kak books before a best seller.
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I have no idea what your point is. People pirate books they want because they don't want to pay for them. Has nothing to do with the author or business.
 
saor said:
I have no idea what your point is. People pirate books they want because they don't want to pay for them. Has nothing to do with the author or business.
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That's your perception, but it's far from the truth. People buy that which has worth and value. Not just random sht spewed left and right. If the ebook was property marketed, advertised and has worth and value, it will be bought. Otherwise it won't. The same for flicks, software, games and the list goes on.
I find greater worth in a Spotify subscription than I did downloading albums 2 decades ago.
 
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