Planning for a future without Eskom

This is futile and there is nothing to plan. If Eskom fails, it is pretty much game over. Rather plan on leaving the country and starting up elsewhere in the world in better and stronger economies with reliable energy.

I was surprised the past year to see at least 5 big centers around us who had crazy generators installed to supply electricity during loadshedding. Today, virtually all stores, even banks, close down during loadshedding. People are queuing outside the banks and stores waiting for power to return. I had a shock when I heard that businesses and banks refuse to pay the high fees it requires to run the generators and that they would rather close store.

This is it. Just get out of the country and ensure you will still have a business in 10 years from now.
 
rvZA said:
This is futile and there is nothing to plan. If Eskom fails, it is pretty much game over. Rather plan on leaving the country and starting up elsewhere in the world in better and stronger economies with reliable energy.

I was surprised the past year to see at least 5 big centers around us who had crazy generators installed to supply electricity during loadshedding. Today, virtually all stores, even banks, close down during loadshedding. People are queuing outside the banks and stores waiting for power to return. I had a shock when I heard that businesses and banks refuse to pay the high fees it requires to run the generators and that they would rather close store.

This is it. Just get out of the country and ensure you will still have a business in 10 years from now.
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When you leaving?
 
RedViking said:
What about a future without an incompetent and corrupt government?
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Not going to happen. Even if it does happen somehow, recovery will take many hundreds of years. No one alive today or anyone born in the next 100 years will ever see the recovery.
 
Property developers have been held ransom for infrastructure for a while now. There are a number of large ones that upgraded roads, sewage, water etc infrastructure and then handed it over to municipalities.

It makes sense for large developments to include water and electricity as part of their development and body corporates managing these for the community.
 
Businesses are not prepared to pay for generators or the fuel. Many feel it is simply easier to sell up, pack up and move overseas.

I did notice before I left how it was so strange, there was stock of generators even that time when Stage 6 was a new experience. Because people ain't buying them. Inverters are a different story though because that's mainly the market for residential it would seem.

Back in '08 when loadshedding started there was a backlog of generator orders, you couldn't get one you had to wait. Just a search on ZA marketplaces it seems they're easy to get... Ja people can't afford the fuel. Well played... ANC konte... communist masepoeste
 
PaulMurkin said:
Businesses are not prepared to pay for generators or the fuel. Many feel it is simply easier to sell up, pack up and move overseas.

I did notice before I left how it was so strange, there was stock of generators even that time when Stage 6 was a new experience. Because people ain't buying them. Inverters are a different story though because that's mainly the market for residential it would seem.

Back in '08 when loadshedding started there was a backlog of generator orders, you couldn't get one you had to wait. Just a search on ZA marketplaces it seems they're easy to get... Ja people can't afford the fuel. Well played... ANC konte... communist masepoeste
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Agreed, I was quite surprised when I saw Absa, FNB, Standard and Nedbank closed during loadshedding and clients stood outside the banks waiting for the power to return. I asked an FNB staff member about the generator the shopping center setup outside and all she told me was that FNB decided not to make use of it due to costs. Other stores like Woolworths and Edgars were open. At both you could enter, do your shopping, but you needed to wait at the tills for power to return. Most stores were simply closed. I think only the restaurants were functioning.

This is scary for the economy. The FNB lady told me her branch went down from 81 staff to 33 in the last year due to retrenchments. I think a lot more will will come now with the crazy loadshedding we are experiencing today. But, I think this is exactly what the ANC wants. It will be easier for them to rule if the population is unemployed, poor and hungry - and they are all reliant on a R300 grant to survive.
 
rvZA said:
This is futile and there is nothing to plan. If Eskom fails, it is pretty much game over. Rather plan on leaving the country and starting up elsewhere in the world in better and stronger economies with reliable energy.

I was surprised the past year to see at least 5 big centers around us who had crazy generators installed to supply electricity during loadshedding. Today, virtually all stores, even banks, close down during loadshedding. People are queuing outside the banks and stores waiting for power to return. I had a shock when I heard that businesses and banks refuse to pay the high fees it requires to run the generators and that they would rather close store.

This is it. Just get out of the country and ensure you will still have a business in 10 years from now.
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It's probably because there's not enough money being made there to justify the expense.
 
TheChamp said:
It's probably because there's not enough money being made there to justify the expense.
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Precisely. Money is drying up all around the country. Ask the ANC.
 
rvZA said:
Precisely. Money is drying up all around the country. Ask the ANC.
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Probably just the West Rand being the West Rand, the fact that you still have queues at banks says everything, people over there are opposing civilization and the banks will not play along.
 
rvZA said:
Agreed, I was quite surprised when I saw Absa, FNB, Standard and Nedbank closed during loadshedding and clients stood outside the banks waiting for the power to return. I asked an FNB staff member about the generator the shopping center setup outside and all she told me was that FNB decided not to make use of it due to costs. Other stores like Woolworths and Edgars were open. At both you could enter, do your shopping, but you needed to wait at the tills for power to return. Most stores were simply closed. I think only the restaurants were functioning.

This is scary for the economy. The FNB lady told me her branch went down from 81 staff to 33 in the last year due to retrenchments. I think a lot more will will come now with the crazy loadshedding we are experiencing today. But, I think this is exactly what the ANC wants. It will be easier for them to rule if the population is unemployed, poor and hungry - and they are all reliant on a R300 grant to survive.
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Been saying that exact sentence for over a decade. I do see the last of the toughest people leaving SA, the street in Cape Town where I once lived, the houses have pretty much all been sold. A quick check and its unsurprising... at least two homes were bought like within a week of listing... and by whom... ANC members that moved from Gauteng. I heard today it sounded like animals were being killed- apparently their idea of a housewarming. (I still have people on WhatsApp who live in the area)
 
PaulMurkin said:
Been saying that exact sentence for over a decade. I do see the last of the toughest people leaving SA, the street in Cape Town where I once lived, the houses have pretty much all been sold. A quick check and its unsurprising... at least two homes were bought like within a week of listing... and by whom... ANC members that moved from Gauteng. I heard today it sounded like animals were being killed- apparently their idea of a housewarming. (I still have people on WhatsApp who live in the area)
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You guys and your legendary tales...
 
rvZA said:
Not going to happen. Even if it does happen somehow, recovery will take many hundreds of years. No one alive today or anyone born in the next 100 years will ever see the recovery.
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That's my thoughts also, even if every single right thing was done from today onwards we would never see the results in our lifetime. Too much damage done and its not stopping or being corrected at a significant level!
 
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