Platinum Strike Ends

So sad that the union can get away with calling this a victory. Once again, the workers have been fleeced by the union parasites, and they believe the union bosses are heroes.

8% increase?
Well let's see - that means it will take 12.5 months to recover each MONTH of no wages. So... 6 months not working? That's over 7 years before you have earned the same amount of money as you would have if you hadn't been on strike at all.
 
As I understand it AMCU wants housing allowances not houses, this mean the mines will spend less on the current housing. They will not provide housing any more and more people will end up living in shacks.
 
I wonder how long it will take before mining companies in South Africa are forced to pull out or automate due to unaffordable labour?

The way mining will be done in the future: [url="www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwrOHFHS-ms]Rio Tinto control centre[/url]
 
Sinbad said:
So sad that the union can get away with calling this a victory. Once again, the workers have been fleeced by the union parasites, and they believe the union bosses are heroes.

8% increase?
Well let's see - that means it will take 12.5 months to recover each MONTH of no wages. So... 6 months not working? That's over 7 years before you have earned the same amount of money as you would have if you hadn't been on strike at all.
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That's excluding any interest on personal loans, penalties/interest on unpaid accounts etc.

The unions, just like the ruling party, depend on extreme ignorance to flourish. If the workers could actually do some basic arithmetic and realise how much worse off they are, how long do you think they'd keep supporting these union mafiosos?
 
TJ99 said:
That's excluding any interest on personal loans, penalties/interest on unpaid accounts etc.

The unions, just like the ruling party, depend on extreme ignorance to flourish. If the workers could actually do some basic arithmetic and realise how much worse off they are, how long do you think they'd keep supporting these union mafiosos?
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Doesn't bring inflation into the equation either. Food inflation is insane currently and it's fairly well documented that this forms a rather significant portion of a lower-income worker's expenses. These guys are worse off now than they were before the strike...
 
The sad reality is that no one wins here. The mining houses lost big time. The workers lost big time, and their increased wages will take a long time to offset that loss, especially when inflation is considered. And now the mining houses have a much stronger reason to look at mechanization, if they were not convinced before.

I wish that the workers would form a group that is really in the WORKERS interests and not in the unions interest.
 
Messugga said:
Doesn't bring inflation into the equation either. Food inflation is insane currently and it's fairly well documented that this forms a rather significant portion of a lower-income worker's expenses. These guys are worse off now than they were before the strike...
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Which means that next year when they're battling to make ends meet, they will break the agreement to strike again for higher wages.
Personally I think that the "right to strike" should be scrapped altogether.
If you don't like a job then you have "the right to resign".
 
Paul_S said:
Which means that next year when they're battling to make ends meet, they will break the agreement to strike again for higher wages.
Personally I think that the "right to strike" should be scrapped altogether.
If you don't like a job then you have "the right to resign".
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Given what has happened in the Gold Sector this week, AMCU have technically lost their right to strike in the Platinum sector for higher wages for the next 3 years.
 
Workers were expected to be back paid within seven days of returning to work. For Implats and Amplats it would be from July 1, 2013 to January 23, 2014 and for Lonmin from October 31, 2013 to January 23, 2014.

Mathunjwa said as part of the return-to-work package, all essential workers dismissed at Lonmin for striking would be reinstated.
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So they're getting paid as though nothing happened? What BS.. Also, the fsckers that were fired get to come back?

That's why the unions are calling this a victory..
 
GhostSixFour said:
So they're getting paid as though nothing happened? What BS.. Also, the fsckers that were fired get to come back?

That's why the unions are calling this a victory..
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No, they're not.

The offer is backdated to July last year. The workers will get the additional pay due to them for working from July to January or October to January. They are not being paid for the period they were on strike.

For Implats and Amplats workers, that will be roughly R6000, and for Lonmin workers R3000.

I would also expect the essential workers who were dismissed will be re-instated, and disciplinary actions will then be reinstated against them.
 
And the mines WON :D

Lol, what a bunch of retards... 5 months for an increase you prob would have gotten anyway ... Their stupidity astounds me.
 
GhostSixFour said:
So they're getting paid as though nothing happened? What BS.. Also, the fsckers that were fired get to come back?

That's why the unions are calling this a victory..
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No the back pay is on the increase they would have gotten. Not the salaries for the months they striked. It's just about nothing really.
 
ToxicBunny said:
No, they're not.

The offer is backdated to July last year. The workers will get the additional pay due to them for working from July to January or October to January. They are not being paid for the period they were on strike.

For Implats and Amplats workers, that will be roughly R6000, and for Lonmin workers R3000.

I would also expect the essential workers who were dismissed will be re-instated, and disciplinary actions will then be reinstated against them.
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Pitbull said:
No the back pay is on the increase they would have gotten. Not the salaries for the months they striked. It's just about nothing really.
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Thanks for clarifying.
 
Paul_S said:
I wonder how long it will take before mining companies in South Africa are forced to pull out or automate due to unaffordable labour?

The way mining will be done in the future: [url="www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwrOHFHS-ms]Rio Tinto control centre[/url]
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Open Pit allows this technology. We been having remote mining equipment here in SA for years. Our open pit mines have advanced technology at a faster pace than underground mines because it is easier to implement.

Some of our open pit mines have traffic management system and a control room where you see real time mining. Most of this is driven from a safety and efficiency point of view but unions will never believe that.
 
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ToxicBunny said:
Given what has happened in the Gold Sector this week, AMCU have technically lost their right to strike in the Platinum sector for higher wages for the next 3 years.
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It actually means nothing. There were multi-year agreements in the past and unions ignored it and went on strike.
 
VJB 449 said:
It actually means nothing. There were multi-year agreements in the past and unions ignored it and went on strike.
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The CCMA should not give them a strike certificate if a multi-year agreement is in force
 
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