Plus-sizing tyres for comfort

Paul_S

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Has anyone done plus-sizing of tyres for comfort?
I drive on some rough back roads and if the government/SANRAL get heavy handed with the tolling I may have to drive on a lot more rough back roads.

My primary goal is to improve the ride comfort as the 215/45 R17 Kumho Solus KH17 OEM tyres are flipping uncomfortable on rough roads. The Khumo's handle beautifully on smooth surfaces, have good traction, cornering, braking and wet weather performance but when pointed at potholes and "Tshwane patched roads" the vehicle feels like a bucking bronco because the side wall is way too firm. :(

It seems my options are:
SizeDiaRadiusRadius increaseCircumference increase
215/45 R17 (OEM)625.3 mm312.6 mm0 mm0 %
215/50 R17646.8 mm323.4 mm10.75 mm3.44 %
225/45 R17634.3 mm317.15 mm4.5 mm1.44 %
225/50 R17656.8 mm328.4 mm15.75 mm5.04 %
235/45 R17643.3 mm321.65 mm9 mm2.89 %

The 50 profiles are harder to get hold of and more expensive so it seems my only options to increase side wall heights are 225/45 and 235/45.
The 225/45 only increases the sidewall by 4.5mm (between rim and ground).
The 235/45 increases the sidewall by 9mm which will probably help a lot but I'm not sure if the rims will handle the extra 20mm width or if there will be rubbing/interference problems.
I don't care about the speedo/odo error and won't go past a 5% increase in rolling circumference.

From what I read increasing the tyre width while keeping the rim width the same (wide tyre on slightly narrow rim) also helps improve comfort since the side walls will bulge out more which allows for more flex in the side walls. The downside is less cornering performance but that doesn't bother me as I drive really relaxed.

My secondary goal is to keep the tyre noise low so I'm not interested in noisy directional tyres.

Any ideas or suggestions?
Experiences with decent budget tyres like Yokohama's, Toyo's, Achilles?
I've used Hankooks before and they're pretty good but they weren't as quiet as I would have liked.
 
What car, for interest's sake?

The only viable means to get a marked increase in tyre height, in my view, would be to go down an inch on your rims. Dunno whether that'd be possible with whatever you drive, what with brake disc clearance and whatnot.

Yokohama, and Toyo for that matter, probably shouldn't be regarded as 'budget' tyres either...
 
I took the 13"'s off my UNO and replaced them with 15" ages ago.

Drove much more comfortably on dirt and Tswane roads.
 
What car, for interest's sake?

The only viable means to get a marked increase in tyre height, in my view, would be to go down an inch on your rims. Dunno whether that'd be possible with whatever you drive, what with brake disc clearance and whatnot.

Kia Cerato 2.0 and yes Kia have 16 inch rims available (used on the 1.6 - 205/55 R16) with a 1% larger rolling circumference than the 17 inch rims but I really like the 17 inch design and don't want to downgrade.

Yokohama, and Toyo for that matter, probably shouldn't be regarded as 'budget' tyres either...

So you'd consider them affordable premium brands?
 
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I took the 13"'s off my UNO and replaced them with 15" ages ago.

Drove much more comfortably on dirt and Tswane roads.

Did you increase the diameter of the tyre in the process or did you use a lower profile tyre to compensate?
 
Meh - I just don't see an easy way for you to gain much one way or the other. Had a quick look now and going from stock to 215/50/16 only gains you 10.7mm, but there's only an 0.6% difference in rolling circumference. Going 215/55/16 gives you 21.5mm taller sidewalls over stock, with a 2.8% increase in circumference - probably your only bet for a noticeable difference in ride quality. Pity you don't like the 16s...

So you'd consider them affordable premium brands?

Yokohama is consistently well rated in comparative tests, but I'm not terribly familiar with Toyo. Achilles I personally wouldn't touch with a 10 ft barge pole, but Rouxenator will be 'round shortly to tell you you're fine with just buying the cheapest tyres you can get. :D
 
Did you increase the diameter of the tyre in the process or did you use a lower profile tyre to compensate?

Increase in Diameter, speedo slightly out but don't care (not had a speeding ticket in over 10 years as I don't speed anyway).

No other difference.
 
Lol Yokis, Toyo and Some Achilles are not budget tyres.
Hancook and Kumho are budget.

As for the OPs Q, buy a pillow.
 
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