Pool Heating - Black Solar Panels

I have a 16 year old son who uses the pool a lot - we swim at least once a week from Nov through to Apr.
The wind is a pain though. It is freaking cold if you get out of the pool and the South Easter hits you.

yeah it is bad

mine luckily not so bad cos i do have little higher walls in the back but yeah the wind does hurt

my kids also use the pool alot now , they started 2 weeks ago so it will be used from now till atleast april may with the solar heating
 
On the subject of water retention, how often are you guys topping up your pools? What's the estimate surface area of the pool and where do you live?
Way too much, way too often. Like 3 hours of running the hose once every week or so. 100kl pool, 60m² surface area, Joburg. Pool gets full sun pretty much all day. Not all of the water loss is evaporation though, we have a crack in the pool that we're getting fixed in a few weeks.
 
On the subject of water retention, how often are you guys topping up your pools? What's the estimate surface area of the pool and where do you live?

Mines small, think its 3m x 5m... if the cover is off it drops a few 2-10cm a day in summer... with the cover on it barely drops.

I use ecofibre in the filter, so barely ever backwash.

I'd say I fill it once a month for about 30min in summer (I've yet to fill it again since March this year)
 
Mines small, think its 3m x 5m... if the cover is off it drops a few 2-10cm a day in summer... with the cover on it barely drops.

I use ecofibre in the filter, so barely ever backwash.

I'd say I fill it once a month for about 30min in summer (I've yet to fill it again since March this year)
Ye, I'm thinking I'm going to get one of those covers as I have to top up every week in summer.
 
Hello. I'm considering finally taking the plunge and installing solar panels on our roof. We are in the southwest where it makes a lot of sense. The Google Project Sunroof site puts our ROI at around only 8-9 years. My hesitancy, however, is that our roof is about 28 years old and also has Spanish Tiles. In our eight years in the house, we have had a few relatively small leaks yet they have been easily found and quickly fixed. Our roofer - whom I trust - has not once suggested a total roof replacement, they've generally commented that the roof is pretty solid. All of this said, what do those of you with panels on an "older" roof like this feel about my prospects with this? Is it crazy to proceed into this with an older roof like this? It obviously would not be taking up the entire roof, but is it a huge headache pain for roofers to work around this (and/or temporarily remove it)? I guess my fear is that we might have a leak and have roofers decline a job to perform a repair.
The roi mention makes me think you mean PV panels not pool heating panels so talking as if that

The pool heating panels are normally fastened different , and fasteners should not go through the plastic into rafter normally only go as deep as the batten, though some pv mounting can work the same ie batten only

Leaks tend to develop at valleys, knocks
ie where you wont be fitting panels normally

Unless you have a low roof angle with either no plastic or perished plastic

Even if you develop what could have been a leak , you would have a low chance of having a leak as the panels would act like a roof over your roof meaning the ammount of water that flows over that portion of roof would be less

but yea can imagine that the labour could be. Higher in the event of leak, and some might be scared to handle panels , either for risk of damage or because they are scared if something ever goes wrong that it would blow back on them, or just scared of the electrical aspect

where the bracket sttaches to the rafter and goes through the plastic is exactly , where the batten does the same , so the chances of a leak is kinda like a normal roof chances for a leak from normal roof construction methods , and reduced again by panel acting as a 2nd roof, and like i said more often than not leaks don't tend to happen on the flat portion of the roof

noramlly water flows away from that point to the mid point between the rafters anyway as the plastic sags

so as long as the guys don't accidently tear the plastic , it should be fine

Imo
 
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only developed a leak on one after 10 years i patched it
What did you use to patch it?

The PVC pipes(the horizontal one) are developing leaks at the joints and the vacuum breaker is also leaking.

Is there a specific vacuum breaker I need?
 
I had to replace one a month back .. had developed a leak that two different people said could not be repaired. Anyway, they did a good job replacing it.
 
What did you use to patch it?

The PVC pipes(the horizontal one) are developing leaks at the joints and the vacuum breaker is also leaking.

Is there a specific vacuum breaker I need?
Is your panels pvc glued or solid panel with rubber joint with clamps?

Or do you have the thin pipes with grommet into thick pipe and you refer to those leaking

No specific vacuum breaker

Normally the brass geyser ones are adapted to pvc sometimes you can't get plastic threaded adapters to screw directly and have to go with a little piece of pipe and a copper screw fitting that is the right size , all depends what is avail in your area
 
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What did you use to patch it?

The PVC pipes(the horizontal one) are developing leaks at the joints and the vacuum breaker is also leaking.

Is there a specific vacuum breaker I need?
I patched the panel itself with bicarb + super glue on tiny holes

Sometimes needed a replication the next season

And patched one hole with silicone , the small hole that was on the underside the silicon lasted on top not so much

If too big eventually you just give up and replace the panel

Edit: this was not leaks on the joints
 
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What did you use to patch it?

The PVC pipes(the horizontal one) are developing leaks at the joints and the vacuum breaker is also leaking.

Is there a specific vacuum breaker I need?
Is very easy to fix the leaks yourself. I have replaced one of the elbow joints and the non return valve that was leaking. Just pop into any pool shop and ask for the parts. They will explain what you need to do.

You will need the pvc weld, the joints and extra pipe to make the join. Oh and a rough scourer or light sandpaper to make better grip for the weld between the joints.
 
When my one panel developed a big hole i just removed the vacuum breaker and it became my vacuum breaker

So it would leak when i start up the pump and then as the flow rate picked up the vacuum of the down pipe would cause it to stop leaking

And then when the pump goes off

The panels would empty via the leak

I have my downpipe on a inlet into the bath so all the water landed back in the pool so used the panel like that a few years, removed them for pv panel space small roof space
 
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