Poolnets and fences are still not required in any bylaws as far as I am aware. I recall the discussion on 702 last year with Jenny and some bloke from government and the bottom line was they were looking to introduce bylaws to ensure the safety of children, however there were far too many issues surrounding it for it to be passed...
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Poolnet - I'm not liable ?
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why would the tenant have any less claim on the poolnet than the landlord?
Surely it's owned jointly unless something else was agreed to? Cut the net in half and tell him to take it or leave it, of course you'll end up buying a new one eventually but a bit of webbing comes in handy.
why would the tenant have any less claim on the poolnet than the landlord?
Cut the net in half and tell him to take it or leave it, of course you'll end up buying a new one eventually but a bit of webbing comes in handy.
Pool net is a fixture (brackets bolted to paving/coping). Tenant has no claim to it, not even if he paid 100%. Ditto if he added another room or garage or storey to the house.
TipsyTart
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Dolby, you are being more than fair and we have been shafted by enough landlords to know a shark when I see one.
Our current landlord is awesome, we havent had an increase in 3 years so have been very lucky...but am curious about the painting..we have been here for 5 years and the house could do with a paint now..dare I ask the landlord to do it or should we just swallow it and do it ourselves...we might get it painted and then a hefty increase in rent I suppose.
Btw, I wouldnt consider renting a house in the first pace that had an unsafe pool so the net wasnt really your responsibility to start with. It was your tentants choice knowing he had young kids, was going to be there for 2 years and would need a net when he initially looked at the house.
Our current landlord is awesome, we havent had an increase in 3 years so have been very lucky...but am curious about the painting..we have been here for 5 years and the house could do with a paint now..dare I ask the landlord to do it or should we just swallow it and do it ourselves...we might get it painted and then a hefty increase in rent I suppose.
Btw, I wouldnt consider renting a house in the first pace that had an unsafe pool so the net wasnt really your responsibility to start with. It was your tentants choice knowing he had young kids, was going to be there for 2 years and would need a net when he initially looked at the house.
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Dolby is 100% correct in just paying the deposit minus any damages that need to be fixed, a year ago I moved out of a rented place and that landlord took off damages, and the R3000 gate and DSTV dish I put in was a lose for me to be honest, any work I did on the house to bring it up to standards were null. The best part is they charged me R1300 for cleaning, which is ridiculous as I could've gotten the place cleaned for less if it needed it. Dolby's tenant is lucky he had Dolby by the sounds of it.
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Not when there is damage caused by the tenants (the stickers on the walls).
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Fudzy
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That's the pitfall of renting. Rather pay a bit more for things you want in a rented place or put up with them and save up for your own place.
the fact that some of you are actually arguing over the fencing of pools is ludicrous. it is a known fact that there have been too many accidents where children have drowned in swimming pools because the area wasn't safely cordoned off. this has been going on for years and the fact that you still sit here and argue over it is beyond me. a 6 foot wall around your property is not fencing off your pool and to sit here and say if a child or animal wanders to your pool area or climbs your wall you are not to blame, i find that nothing short of despicable. if the child climbed over the fence that was protecting your pool, then i have no problem in your attitude, but a life is a life and to just ignore the fact that a child is small and helpless should this happen on your property is disgusting. that child would have no chance if there was no one around to help him/her if that child was drowning. now do the honorable thing and put a bloody fence around your pool. it could be your child.
So now in adition to a 2m wall that a kid scales to get into my property I should add a 1m fence? Doesn't quite make sense... can clear a 2m wall, but a 1m fence is expected to stop the same kid?
I will argue the point, despicable or not - I'm not putting a fugly fence around my pool - or a inconvenient fugly net to protect the life of a trespasser....
Should my dogs also be muzzled 24/7 in case said kid gets over and gets mauled before making it to the pool?
I'm sorry, its private property - one day when I have kids I'll take the necessary precautions... right now there are only meant to be invited people on my property, and if they have kids, they are alerted to the pool.
I will argue the point, despicable or not - I'm not putting a fugly fence around my pool - or a inconvenient fugly net to protect the life of a trespasser....
Should my dogs also be muzzled 24/7 in case said kid gets over and gets mauled before making it to the pool?
I'm sorry, its private property - one day when I have kids I'll take the necessary precautions... right now there are only meant to be invited people on my property, and if they have kids, they are alerted to the pool.
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Whilst I agree with some of your pov there is no law. In a factual dispute one tends to deal with...facts.
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And I agree with most of xrapidx
Should he muzzle his dog 24/7 incase?
And if not - why is it different?
There are many examples.... should I leave a kid friendly gap in my electric fence
Should people with out kids be required to cover all open plug points.
Should stove tops be protected
Should knives be placed out of reach.
But the dog one foremost, as I'm sure there are more dog attacks than kid drownings.
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If you have kids, and they drown in your pool which doesnt have some sort of protected access - then yes, you should be held accountable somehow...
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Thank you xrapidx.
At least someone understands -
I will cover my pool if I want to protect my children - or the children of people who I welcome onto my property.
For the government to enforce that I put a net / fence on / around my pool - so that someone who isn't welcome on my property might drown is absolutely ridiculous.
At least someone understands -
I will cover my pool if I want to protect my children - or the children of people who I welcome onto my property.
For the government to enforce that I put a net / fence on / around my pool - so that someone who isn't welcome on my property might drown is absolutely ridiculous.