Potch student called 'monkey' faces disciplinary action

[Grant]

so now i'm still figure out what is so heinously offensive in calling someone a monkey.

if one called the other a prick - it would be a non event
but call someone a monkey and all hell breaks loose

 

[chunk10]

so now i'm still figure out what is so heinously offensive in calling someone a monkey.

if one called the other a prick - it would be a non event
but call someone a monkey and all hell breaks loose

The other option is why did he call him a Monkey and not a prick, why was monkey his go to?

Yeah the dude shouldn't have taken offense to the term but its also telling that's what the other dude went for.

 

[Fulcrum29]

I would have appreciated the media to have captured or linked to the Facebook posts and topic. It is in my opinion idiotic to use name calling to better a position, it is emotional and downright dumb. There is no moral high ground here.

Now, I have gone to the post on Facebook and the comments section has been cleaned up with only selected comments picked by the group or page admin to be visible. I guess there was more said than what is being heard here between Goliath and Bisschoff.

Anyway, once things result in name calling then there is little reasoning to begin with. No ammunition, no argument. More education needed on both sides.

 

[crackersa]

Whites should stop being apologetic weaklings. The current racist abuse of whites should be met with no mercy.

Let's move this to off topic

 

[Grant]

The other option is why did he call him a Monkey and not a prick, why was monkey his go to?

lets get back to my original question

as kids we were frequently called monkeys, just as i call a friend's kids from time to time.
it is generally a catch-all reference when we were noisy / messy/ uncooperative / running around etc etc etc - just as i apply it to the kids of a friend from time to time.

[video=youtube;JC4C_Gcp_dM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC4C_Gcp_dM[/video]


so, my question remains

 

[crackersa]

lets get back to my original question

as kids we were frequently called monkeys, just as i call a friend's kids from time to time.
it is generally a catch-all reference when we were noisy / messy/ uncooperative / running around etc etc etc - just as i apply it to the kids of a friend from time to time.

[video=youtube;JC4C_Gcp_dM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC4C_Gcp_dM[/video]


so, my question remains

What question?

 

[cpu.]

How so? He called goliath a monkey. Goliath responded with intellect and avoided personal attacks and is now being victimized for standing up against a hateful racist pig.

Yes, let's cry about someone calling another a monkey, but in the same breath call them a pig. Hypocrite.

I do not agree with calling (especially) a black person a monkey, but let fair be fair. Acknowledge it when it's against whites too (not aimed at you - people in general).

 

[crackersa]

Yes, let's cry about someone calling another a monkey, but in the same breath call them a pig. Hypocrite.

I do not agree with calling (especially) a black person a monkey, but let fair be fair. Acknowledge it when it's against whites too (not aimed at you - people in general).

When is calling someone a pig racist?

 

[Grant]

What question?

damn yankee redneck !!!!!!

see post #21

so now i'm still figure out what is so heinously offensive in calling someone a monkey.

 

[Ninja'd]

In the comment section of an AfriForum Jeug Facebook [Afriforum Youth Facebook] post in May calling for the protection of the teaching of law at NWU in Afrikaans

Why can't they learn in English like everyone else?

Goliath called AfriForum Jeug an intolerant organisation and said black students "are tired of being 'accommodated'".

And you shut up cause it seems like Afrikaans people are being accommodated here.

 

[Fulcrum29]

lets get back to my original question

as kids we were frequently called monkeys, just as i call a friend's kids from time to time.
it is generally a catch-all reference when we were noisy / messy/ uncooperative / running around etc etc etc - just as i apply it to the kids of a friend from time to time.

so, my question remains

Do you relate to people being monkeys in a grown-up conversation, like you apply it above do you apply it generally to any person? By your opinion, Goliath acted noisy, messy, uncooperative, running around, etc?

Since the Rhodes Must Fall campaign, there has been change called by both the black population and white population. Since then a language has been targeted, more so than in the past, which has touched a minority in the white population emotionally and a call on decolonisation. Not to mention that even the DA has supported this to an extent.

Now to quote the article,

In the comment section of an AfriForum Jeug Facebook [Afriforum Youth Facebook] post in May calling for the protection of the teaching of law at NWU in Afrikaans, Goliath wrote that the "the winds of change" were blowing at the university.

The above quote is in direct relation to decolonisation, but to continue,

Goliath called AfriForum Jeug an intolerant organisation and said black students "are tired of being 'accommodated'".

Hook, line and sinker, so how did Bisschoff respond?

In response, Bisschoff said Goliath "oozes inferiority" and his "sense of entitlement is sickening".

Bisschoff wrote in Afrikaans, "Dis nadat ons ondankbare apies soos julle ‘n kans gegee het wat julle die mat onder ons voete uitgepluk het (It was after we gave ungrateful monkeys like you a chance when you pulled the carpet from underneath our feet)."

"You have a plundering mentality because you can’t build your own successful institutions," Bisschoff wrote.

What is this chance and why have a chance been given? Strange how Goliath's remark on accommodation makes sense in this context.

Goliath responded saying Bisschoff’s "white supremacy is nauseating".

"Plundering mentality is your white Afrikaner mentality that thinks you [are] superior because a black body must constantly feel inferior to you, that's why your inherent racism allows you to call other people 'monkeys'," Goliath said.

Which is, well, Goliath beating Bisschoff at this debate. I am sorry, but Bisschoff was not grown up enough to take on this challenge, plus he had to remind Goliath of the old times, poor form.

 

[LCBXX]

Sigh. Some people elevate others to be superior to them and then want to cry foul when it happens.

 

[Grant]

Do you relate to people being monkeys in a grown-up conversation, like you apply it above do you apply it generally to any person? By your opinion, Goliath acted noisy, messy, uncooperative, running around, etc?

Since the Rhodes Must Fall campaign, there has been change called by both the black population and white population. Since then a language has been targeted, more so than in the past, which has touched a minority in the white population emotionally and a call on decolonisation. Not to mention that even the DA has supported this to an extent.

Now to quote the article,



The above quote is in direct relation to decolonisation, but to continue,



Hook, line and sinker, so how did Bisschoff respond?



What is this chance and why have a chance been given? Strange how Goliath's remark on accommodation makes sense in this context.



Which is, well, Goliath beating Bisschoff at this debate. I am sorry, but Bisschoff was not grown up enough to take on this challenge, plus he had to remind Goliath of the old times, poor form.

yea
thanks for all that


despite the time, energy & effort you spent in your reply, the question remains unanswered

so now i'm still figure out what is so heinously offensive in calling someone a monkey.

 

[Knyro]

yea
thanks for all that


despite the time, energy & effort you spent in your reply, the question remains unanswered

Calling black people monkeys has history behind it, people the use it as a slur are aware of it, hence it being one of the go-to insults for racists. Not that they'll admit it.

 

[Fulcrum29]

yea
thanks for all that


despite the time, energy & effort you spent in your reply, the question remains unanswered

It is more in the context, generally as you had put it there is little wrong in calling someone a monkey, but context do matter here. I went to the Facebook post to see the larger picture, but it had all been cleaned up which is silly in my opinion, what is there to hide?

 

[Grant]

Calling black people monkeys has history behind it, people the use it as a slur are aware of it, hence it being one of the go-to insults for racists. Not that they'll admit it.

i disagree

but my sweet little coconut - shouldn't you be in that new (one size too small speedo) of yours and busy with swimming training

 

[MrGray]

It's worth paying attention when even the former head of the UK Equality and Human Rights Commission (that was basically the political correctness police under Tony Blair) says that he thinks the politically correct oversensitivity has gone way too far and is now marginalising whites in exactly the same way that other groups were previously marginalised:

[video=youtube;Tb2iFikOwYU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTb2iFikOwYU[/video]

 

[cpu.]

When is calling someone a pig racist?

I didn't say that. You used it as an insult, the level of offensiveness you choose to take or attach to it is irrelevant. Try calling a black person that (if you're not black) and it will be racist - no question.

 

[Knyro]

i disagree

but my sweet little coconut - shouldn't you be in that new (one size too small speedo) of yours and busy with swimming training

Even if you disagree the fact remains that that particular word is used as an insult for a reason.

 

[Grant]

It is more in the context, generally as you had put it there is little wrong in calling someone a monkey, but context do matter here. I went to the Facebook post to see the larger picture, but it had all been cleaned up which is silly in my opinion, what is there to hide?

yea, context plays a huge role in most cases, but i find this whole monkey thing puzzling.
i have lived in 4 countries and travelled extensively - people exchange insults back and forth everywhere.
people are called pigs, monkeys, sloths, hippos etc - none of is deemed racist anywhere - just common garden variety insults.
however here back home, suddenly monkey has become the "m" word.

it would appear to me, and this is sheer speculation, but since the penny sparrow thing the "m" word is something to be insulted by - racially insulted.
i still fail to draw the correlation between a black person and a monkey.
did this incident trigger a whole of people & now thier "cause" is creating more good than bad ?

so now i get to the pool and see knryo lolling about (in his impossibly small speedo) and shout "hey munkee get back into the pool, you still have another 200m to do"
so why did i call him a monkey - is he hiding a tail back there somewhere, does he have a sliverback, did i see him swinging from the branches of a tree eating bananas ?
probably not.

perhaps people find reason to get offended to easily - is it because of some underlying issue of inadequacy or lack of self confidence.
here i'll refer to my peer group of pooftahs on this forum.
you can call me a faggot, moffie, bum bandit, tail gunner, fudge packer etc etc - i really do not give a flying fukk, in fact, i would seize the opportunint to hurl some abuse right back.
others in here "my group" here would instantly go into meltdown and start screaming, then another lobby will see opportunity to take offence on behalf of them.

perhaps thicker skins are required for jungle survival
i doubt the meek shall inherit the earth