SauRoNZA
Honorary Master
So I've had an eye on these for a couple years having a house fully inverted and running on solar but it always seemed a bit silly to go replace a perfectly working geyser.
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That was until last week when I had a strong suspicion my geyser has burst or is in the process of bursting when I discovered more and more water dripping outside by the overflow. It's mounted in the ceiling of my garage so a quick jump on the ladder to check the geyser drip tray and it was welling up with water and slowly dripping out of the thermostat probe hole.
Got in touch with the insurance to find out how it works to get them to assess the unit and then pay me out directly and of course nobody reads so there was a whole song and dance because they simply initiated a claim and sent out a plumber who then called me a million times after the initial assessment wanting to come and install the new geyser I never asked for, but even insurance woke up and sorted it all out and paid me a nice R12k for my efforts.
Got hold of Power4Less to get a quote and they were pretty quick about things and turns out the landed price is actually R1,999 more for delivery, but then I subsequently found out you can get them via Avo and their credit they actually recommended I buy it there and save the money and a friend of mine who is one of the few people who actually uses Nedbank bought it on my behalf for the additional greenbacks discount and the landed cost ended up being R26,319.06.
Part of their quote is a voucher of R5,650 for the installation costs which includes a certain amount of plumbing and labour up to certain limits, but their approved plumber had already reached out to me and I decided to just work with him directly as my pipe run is likely to be less than the voucher stipulates and so I may just score a few hundred rands there.
Overall quoted price directly from Power4Less with installation voucher and delivery was R33,942.
Of course that excludes the waterproof plug that needs to be fitted at the installation location and where required the need for a concrete slab or levelled surface. I already have large levelled paved slabs around the house, but just for some extra stability I'm picking up a 800mm x 800mm concrete rebar reinforced slab tomorrow morning at the crack of dawn just so it's slightly raised off the ground and doesn't distribute it's weight over multiple smaller slabs that may potentially shift or crack, since they also bolt the unit down.
Electrician came around on Friday to install the outside plug point, which fortunately is on the back of the same wall where my distribution board sits, so was a quick drill through the wall and installing some tubing and doing the electrical magic for R1,700.
I already had a CBI Astute Smart Controller installed in line with my geyser circuit breaker which has now been linked to the outside plug, because the IHP while Tuya-based and Smart doesn't do power monitoring in and of itself and I'm a nerd for the data and the old geyser isn't going to use it any more anyway.
Oddly my CBI Astute Smart Socket running my one aircon shat itself with the power being turned off and back on to add an additional plug in my garage, since they were here figured I would make the best of it. Very odd and the first time I've had a failure and it's not like the power hasn't tripped before, but I do feel like that plug was doing some weird stuff before so possibly was just slowly on it's way out and this was the last straw.
So the reason for the thread? Well to track if this thing really lives up to the promises of efficiency, but beyond that my goal is to reduce my consumption outside of solar sun hours and potentially no longer needing to pay Eskom anything at all as most of my grid consumption goes into the geyser running in the early hours of the morning and early evening.
It was a 150L previously with a 3kW element that was set to 55-degrees and ran from 12:00 - 19:00 every day, but I had it setup in Home Assistant that when manually flipped on out of those hours it would stay on for 1 1/2 hours and then turn off again which ended up being more often than not.
My intention with the IHP is to set it to 60-degrees at first and run it from 08:00-20:00 by default with only the 600W element and hopefully never need to use the 2kW element boost function.
Old School 150L Geyser in kWh / average per day.
April 2025 227.06 / 7.56
May 2025 274.7 / 8.86
June 327.99 / 10.93
July 337.81 / 10.89
August 338.22 / 10.91
September 248.58 / 8.28
October 265.47 / 8.56
November 214 / 7.13
December 189.21 / 6.10
January 182.73 / 5.89
February 182 / 6.5
March 212.71 / 6.86
April 267.32 / 8.90
IHP
25 May - 2.7 kWh (55 degrees 08:00-20:00)
26 May - 4.26 kWh (having briefly pumped it to 60-degrees and pulling it back to 55, left on 24/7)
27 May - 4.84 kWh (24/7 55-degrees, I feel this is the worst it can get because it's a day where my domestic is around and it always hurt the hot water)
28 May - 4.03 kWh
29 May - 3.23 kWh (changed it to switch down to 45-degrees at 22:00 and back to 55-degrees at 10:00 to make the most use of solar but never go cold)
30 May - 3.01 kWh
31 May - 4.03 kWh
Month to Month
Geyser
June 2025 - 327.99 kWh - 150L Conventional Geyser set to 55-degrees but off overnight making the most of solar hours.
July 337.81 kWh
August 338.22 kWh
IHP
June 2026 - 138.37 kWh (58% saving) - 200L IHP set to 60-degrees from 12:00 - 20:00 and 55 degrees outside of that.
July 2026 - 142.82 kWh (58% saving)
August 2026 - 131.09 kWh (61% saving) - I fiddled a lot with timers and pretty much let it run to 65-degrees from 12:00-16:00 for the solar hours.
September 2026 - - Now I pretty much have it on 55-degrees at all times, with it running up to 65-degrees from 12:00-16:00 just to put the solar to work.
Obviously the above is not an exact science as no two days are precisely the same and when we go away for weekends or holidays it would dip considerably, but it will hopefully be somewhat of a real world reflection of the differences.
At the very least at 600W and running for 12 hours assuming it can maintain the temperature it will never use more than 7.2kWh per day.
So now we wait for the plumber to come around tomorrow morning and do the work and then we'll find out if magic happens or it's all just marketing. It does seem like a very solid piece of kid with the sexy stainless steel body, but we'll have to see how their promise of it never leaking or bursting works out over the next 10 and hopefully more years.[/b]
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Update after final plumber invoice.
Unit Cost - R26,319.06
Installation - R7,241.60
Total - R33,560.66
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That was until last week when I had a strong suspicion my geyser has burst or is in the process of bursting when I discovered more and more water dripping outside by the overflow. It's mounted in the ceiling of my garage so a quick jump on the ladder to check the geyser drip tray and it was welling up with water and slowly dripping out of the thermostat probe hole.
Got in touch with the insurance to find out how it works to get them to assess the unit and then pay me out directly and of course nobody reads so there was a whole song and dance because they simply initiated a claim and sent out a plumber who then called me a million times after the initial assessment wanting to come and install the new geyser I never asked for, but even insurance woke up and sorted it all out and paid me a nice R12k for my efforts.
Got hold of Power4Less to get a quote and they were pretty quick about things and turns out the landed price is actually R1,999 more for delivery, but then I subsequently found out you can get them via Avo and their credit they actually recommended I buy it there and save the money and a friend of mine who is one of the few people who actually uses Nedbank bought it on my behalf for the additional greenbacks discount and the landed cost ended up being R26,319.06.
Part of their quote is a voucher of R5,650 for the installation costs which includes a certain amount of plumbing and labour up to certain limits, but their approved plumber had already reached out to me and I decided to just work with him directly as my pipe run is likely to be less than the voucher stipulates and so I may just score a few hundred rands there.
Overall quoted price directly from Power4Less with installation voucher and delivery was R33,942.
Of course that excludes the waterproof plug that needs to be fitted at the installation location and where required the need for a concrete slab or levelled surface. I already have large levelled paved slabs around the house, but just for some extra stability I'm picking up a 800mm x 800mm concrete rebar reinforced slab tomorrow morning at the crack of dawn just so it's slightly raised off the ground and doesn't distribute it's weight over multiple smaller slabs that may potentially shift or crack, since they also bolt the unit down.
Electrician came around on Friday to install the outside plug point, which fortunately is on the back of the same wall where my distribution board sits, so was a quick drill through the wall and installing some tubing and doing the electrical magic for R1,700.
I already had a CBI Astute Smart Controller installed in line with my geyser circuit breaker which has now been linked to the outside plug, because the IHP while Tuya-based and Smart doesn't do power monitoring in and of itself and I'm a nerd for the data and the old geyser isn't going to use it any more anyway.
Oddly my CBI Astute Smart Socket running my one aircon shat itself with the power being turned off and back on to add an additional plug in my garage, since they were here figured I would make the best of it. Very odd and the first time I've had a failure and it's not like the power hasn't tripped before, but I do feel like that plug was doing some weird stuff before so possibly was just slowly on it's way out and this was the last straw.
So the reason for the thread? Well to track if this thing really lives up to the promises of efficiency, but beyond that my goal is to reduce my consumption outside of solar sun hours and potentially no longer needing to pay Eskom anything at all as most of my grid consumption goes into the geyser running in the early hours of the morning and early evening.
It was a 150L previously with a 3kW element that was set to 55-degrees and ran from 12:00 - 19:00 every day, but I had it setup in Home Assistant that when manually flipped on out of those hours it would stay on for 1 1/2 hours and then turn off again which ended up being more often than not.
My intention with the IHP is to set it to 60-degrees at first and run it from 08:00-20:00 by default with only the 600W element and hopefully never need to use the 2kW element boost function.
Old School 150L Geyser in kWh / average per day.
April 2025 227.06 / 7.56
May 2025 274.7 / 8.86
June 327.99 / 10.93
July 337.81 / 10.89
August 338.22 / 10.91
September 248.58 / 8.28
October 265.47 / 8.56
November 214 / 7.13
December 189.21 / 6.10
January 182.73 / 5.89
February 182 / 6.5
March 212.71 / 6.86
April 267.32 / 8.90
IHP
25 May - 2.7 kWh (55 degrees 08:00-20:00)
26 May - 4.26 kWh (having briefly pumped it to 60-degrees and pulling it back to 55, left on 24/7)
27 May - 4.84 kWh (24/7 55-degrees, I feel this is the worst it can get because it's a day where my domestic is around and it always hurt the hot water)
28 May - 4.03 kWh
29 May - 3.23 kWh (changed it to switch down to 45-degrees at 22:00 and back to 55-degrees at 10:00 to make the most use of solar but never go cold)
30 May - 3.01 kWh
31 May - 4.03 kWh
Month to Month
Geyser
June 2025 - 327.99 kWh - 150L Conventional Geyser set to 55-degrees but off overnight making the most of solar hours.
July 337.81 kWh
August 338.22 kWh
IHP
June 2026 - 138.37 kWh (58% saving) - 200L IHP set to 60-degrees from 12:00 - 20:00 and 55 degrees outside of that.
July 2026 - 142.82 kWh (58% saving)
August 2026 - 131.09 kWh (61% saving) - I fiddled a lot with timers and pretty much let it run to 65-degrees from 12:00-16:00 for the solar hours.
September 2026 - - Now I pretty much have it on 55-degrees at all times, with it running up to 65-degrees from 12:00-16:00 just to put the solar to work.
Obviously the above is not an exact science as no two days are precisely the same and when we go away for weekends or holidays it would dip considerably, but it will hopefully be somewhat of a real world reflection of the differences.
At the very least at 600W and running for 12 hours assuming it can maintain the temperature it will never use more than 7.2kWh per day.
So now we wait for the plumber to come around tomorrow morning and do the work and then we'll find out if magic happens or it's all just marketing. It does seem like a very solid piece of kid with the sexy stainless steel body, but we'll have to see how their promise of it never leaking or bursting works out over the next 10 and hopefully more years.[/b]
****
Update after final plumber invoice.
Unit Cost - R26,319.06
Installation - R7,241.60
Total - R33,560.66
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